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pnwmom

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17. You keep saying that without a bit of evidence.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 11:23 PM
Dec 2016

And your comment blaming the Dems for not eliminating the Electoral College after Bush's election is similarly uninformed. An amendment to the constitution requires an approval by 3/4 of the states. That was not something the Democrats could have accomplished.

http://pasadenajournal.com/what-surely-tainted-our-election-voter-suppression/

The steps taken to suppress the vote aren’t secret: new requirements of voter ID that discriminate against the poor, the elderly and disproportionately people of color; restrictions on use of college ID to impede student voting; closing registration weeks before Election Day; limiting early voting days, closing on Sundays; holding Election Day on a workday with limited hours for voting, making it difficult for those with inflexible hours to get to the polls; shutting down or moving polling places to confuse voters and force them to wait in long lines; purging voters from the polling lists, leaving them to cast provisional ballots at best; prohibiting felons who have paid their debt to society from ever recovering the right to vote, disproportionately impacting African-American men.

There is little doubt that these measures worked, and cost Clinton the election. In Wisconsin, for example, Trump’s margin of victory was 27,000. A record 300,000 registered voters lacked the newly required ID, contributing to the lowest turnout in 20 years. Turnout was down by more than 50,000 in Milwaukee where 70 percent of the state’s African-American population lives.

In North Carolina, black turnout was down 16 percent in the first week of early voting, in part because there were 158 fewer polling places in the 40 counties with large numbers of black voters. The targeting was intentional, with Republican officials celebrating the effects. The decision by the right-wing gang of five on the Supreme Court in the Shelby case effectively subverted the victory of the civil rights movement at Selma.

If Russians hacked the Democratic National Committee’s and the Clinton campaign’s emails to influence the election, it should be investigated. In an election decided by 80,000 votes in three states, it might have made a difference (as almost anything could in an election that close). But what is clear is that Russian hacking was not nearly as effective as the partisan systematic suppression of the vote. And that effort is continuing. Republicans in Missouri took control and moved to institute new voting ID restrictions for the next election. In Wisconsin, Republicans announced plans for new restrictions on early voting.

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She could run for Prime Misister if she became a citizen n/t Chevy Dec 2016 #1
Liberal or NDP? eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #2
I'm guessing Liberal Chevy Dec 2016 #38
Certainly not the NDP. George II Dec 2016 #45
Agreed. The Liberal party would be the best fit. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #59
If she did start appearing on the tv the DURHAM D Dec 2016 #3
Obama is already being criticized from the "left" by Taibbi and Greenwald. lapucelle Dec 2016 #37
agreed. sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #4
If she did she'd be accused of being unAmerican for deserting her country Raine Dec 2016 #5
Yeah, by idiots. In other countries people like her have been considered heroes. pnwmom Dec 2016 #6
I believed it was Ireland that asked Bill Clinton to be their President after he left office leftofcool Dec 2016 #23
What a nice thought blue cat Dec 2016 #30
All? I wouldn't go that far... Rethuglians too? If, by "our," you mean Dems, yes. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #58
She won't Generator Dec 2016 #7
yes, she is a believer Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #36
I don't care where she retires to. Iggo Dec 2016 #8
Hillary Clinton named Most Admired Woman 20th year in a row by Americans Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #34
Not at all. Iggo Dec 2016 #41
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You're not accounting for the voter suppression allowed by the dismantling pnwmom Dec 2016 #10
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Wrong. There is a great deal of analysis that says voter suppression pnwmom Dec 2016 #15
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You keep saying that without a bit of evidence. pnwmom Dec 2016 #17
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Yes, I am. You're not bothering to read the articles. pnwmom Dec 2016 #24
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It's more evidence than you've bothered to provide. All you do is assert things, pnwmom Dec 2016 #32
Lots of "name removed" here, that tells us quite a bit!!! George II Dec 2016 #46
If this thread did nothing else pnwmom Dec 2016 #48
And in spite of all that, Hillary had higher turnout from African-Americans than John Kerry did. StevieM Dec 2016 #28
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So.. JHan Dec 2016 #18
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Well you're wrong: JHan Dec 2016 #25
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lol.. JHan Dec 2016 #39
Welcome to DU... SidDithers Dec 2016 #12
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Glass half full, half empty, or as an engineer might say, it's twice as big as it needs to be? fleabiscuit Dec 2016 #29
Your claim seems a bit... odd. fleabiscuit Dec 2016 #35
This sounds like it's from the Onion. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #14
I just want her to adopt me on her way out La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #19
+1. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #20
lol. ;) JHan Dec 2016 #26
I know an early and loyal low level volunteer who has gotten a phone call on her birthday lapucelle Dec 2016 #40
Thanks for sharing this, lapucelle. pnwmom Dec 2016 #42
thank you! KT2000 Dec 2016 #43
She would also get universal healthcare and a VERY liberal federal/provincial government. George II Dec 2016 #44
Forming a government in exile may be becessary, if civil war breaks out here and KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #47
I'll bet she could land a great job in the Trudeau admin. ucrdem Dec 2016 #49
Got a link for Hillary's popularity in Canada (and elsewhere in the world)? Motown_Johnny Dec 2016 #50
It's more than name recognition and I doubt you tried very hard. pnwmom Dec 2016 #51
Here's one which Mr. Google found me afirming Canadian support for Hillary still_one Dec 2016 #54
Thank you, still_one. And notice how many Canadian MEN supported Hillary. pnwmom Dec 2016 #55
Agreed still_one Dec 2016 #56
In Alberta and across Canada there was strong support for Hillary to be President still_one Dec 2016 #52
yeah, but NY loves her also. and so does California and many other places. it's just that the JI7 Dec 2016 #53
Unfortunately, NY and CA wouldn't be able to keep her out of jail. pnwmom Dec 2016 #57
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