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43. Which means nothing if

Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:42 AM

Dec 2016

the user was surfing the web with it.

We don't know how locked down it was, what kind of anti spyware/malware protection it had, or really anything about it or its user.

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There was no Vermont electrical grid hack [View all] oberliner Dec 2016 OP

The laptop is "in our system ( ie on our network) " - thats how they scanned for the malware pkdu Dec 2016 #1

I think the title of the OP is misleading..."There was no hack....oh wait...there was but it's NBD" LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #4

Nothing happened to the electrical grid oberliner Dec 2016 #5

see post #2 though. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #6

Understood oberliner Dec 2016 #7

just because the grid wasn't brought down sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #10

The headline is not true oberliner Dec 2016 #18

That laptop belonged to the utility sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #24

But the WaPo headline said that the hackers had "penetrated the US electricity grid" oberliner Dec 2016 #29

I'm not mincing words. sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #34

That depends if the utility EVER allowed various laptops to be connected to the system that ran the karynnj Dec 2016 #50

You don't know any of this. sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #57

Nor do you know anything to the contrary karynnj Dec 2016 #60

No I am not but sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #92

Actually, the headline did not say that. lapucelle Dec 2016 #40

Yes, it did oberliner Dec 2016 #73

It was not connected because they disconnected it from the system. pnwmom Dec 2016 #12

It WAS connected to the grid. They took it offline after they discovered the malware. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #14

+1 JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #15

Where did it say this? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #16

Different article. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #20

No, it wasn't oberliner Dec 2016 #17

They said they isolated it AFTER it was discovered. pnwmom Dec 2016 #21

The laptop was not connected to the grid oberliner Dec 2016 #22

The two sentences must be read together. pnwmom Dec 2016 #23

It's pretty simple to understand n/t JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #27

The laptop was not connected to the grid oberliner Dec 2016 #31

Says it's not connected when they found it. Splitting hairs? Why? bettyellen Dec 2016 #53

A poster below said they would defer to the Washington Post oberliner Dec 2016 #71

Since we all know a breech was attempted and failed how important is this small bettyellen Dec 2016 #77

I am not saying this is equivalent to anything oberliner Dec 2016 #79

Their official statement leaves out the word "was." pnwmom Dec 2016 #72

A simpler, more realistic situation is that the utility has TWO completely independent systems karynnj Dec 2016 #55

That was my first reading canetoad Dec 2016 #63

If it was always separate, why did they need to isolate it? n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #74

Because it was connected to a network oberliner Dec 2016 #76

They would want to isolate any malware from everything else on the system that it is on karynnj Dec 2016 #80

source please? That is not what either the state official or the Burlington Electric official said. karynnj Dec 2016 #51

There are lots of networks FarCenter Dec 2016 #26

Thanks - very well said! karynnj Dec 2016 #56

So a malware code planted by Russian operatives was found on a computer in use at a public utility, lapucelle Dec 2016 #2

+1 C Moon Dec 2016 #13

No reason to feel reassured oberliner Dec 2016 #19

Here's a link to the E-Replica hard copy of the Post. lapucelle Dec 2016 #37

The online article changed significantly oberliner Dec 2016 #75

That doesn't surprise me. lapucelle Dec 2016 #81

my laptop scans for malware every day HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #82

Agreed oberliner Dec 2016 #84

How do you know it was 'planted' by anyone? B2G Dec 2016 #35

Malware is always planted, and the utility owned the laptop. lapucelle Dec 2016 #39

The sales of gas powered home generators will climb this weekend. lpbk2713 Dec 2016 #3

Stuff like this makes it more real to Trumpiacs radical noodle Dec 2016 #8

Saw that Daily Caller message to their faithful-- Hortensis Dec 2016 #32

Yes, this is an unforced error on the part of Washington Post oberliner Dec 2016 #86

Ummm, they always say WaPo is lying, tho, so no harm, Hortensis Dec 2016 #87

I expect people to start claiming the Russians are messing with "precious bodily fluids" DemocraticWing Dec 2016 #9

Oh MY GOD! elmac Dec 2016 #11

I believe the fact that Putin controls Trump is reason enough to be worried leftofcool Dec 2016 #30

You have to be kidding? The utility was hacked, Hortensis Dec 2016 #33

You are determined to believe that which you want to believe. stevenleser Dec 2016 #62

I don't know why so many people on this thread are taking this so lightly. Vinca Dec 2016 #25

+1 and makes me question JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #28

Everyone is assuming the malware was "planted" B2G Dec 2016 #36

According to state officials, the utility owns the laptop. lapucelle Dec 2016 #42

Which means nothing if B2G Dec 2016 #43

I'm sure it was all just a crazy coincidence, and there's nothing to be alarmed about. lapucelle Dec 2016 #44

As they should be, but B2G Dec 2016 #45

The utility released a public statement, Vermont public radio reported on it, lapucelle Dec 2016 #46

From your link: B2G Dec 2016 #47

An administrative computer at a public utility contained malware lapucelle Dec 2016 #48

I would be most interested to learn B2G Dec 2016 #49

I'm sure that Trump will be looking for those very answers in about 20 days. lapucelle Dec 2016 #54

You do that. nt B2G Dec 2016 #59

So you agree with what the republicans are saying? Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #64

What are they saying? nt B2G Dec 2016 #65

You are telling me you don't know what the repubs are saying? Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #66

I know what they're saying about the email hacks. B2G Dec 2016 #68

Basically the Russians lobbed a bomb through the window Takket Dec 2016 #38

I think I will defer to the Washington Post and not some small hometown newspaper on this one./nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #41

I will consider the statement from Mike Kanerick of Burlington Electric, that seems very karynnj Dec 2016 #52

LOL! Not like there'd be any ass covering going on. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #58

Actually, it looks like the utility did exactly the right thing - checked out its computers, and karynnj Dec 2016 #61

Really? You're going with that? Screw up and report it. Everything's just fine. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #67

Yes, unless you know more than is in the statements that is exactly what I think karynnj Dec 2016 #69

The Washington Post changed its headline and article content oberliner Dec 2016 #70

Hillary hacked it with the DNC and used a poor strategy the process... tenderfoot Dec 2016 #78

Thank you for objective critical information. As you note WaPo has changed their story due to this think Dec 2016 #83

You're welcome oberliner Dec 2016 #85

Thanks for the facts. We need to quit over reacting to every story until it is proven. USALiberal Dec 2016 #88

Whole story basically turns out to be BS from top to bottom oberliner Jan 2017 #93

Here is WAPost statement....... USALiberal Dec 2016 #89

Thanks for adding that oberliner Dec 2016 #90

Thanks for posting the truth!! USALiberal Dec 2016 #91