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12. RED STATES hate us for our FREEDOMS.

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Dec 2016

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'CalExit' - state's economy is large enough for California to become a sovereign country. [View all] RKP5637 Dec 2016 OP

I'm in! Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #1

I only left because my job moved me. I would go back for sure. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #2

From his home in Russia, Right-wing activist Louis Marinelli organizes Calexit- KittyWampus Dec 2016 #64

Hmm, seems the election of Trump has has caused the orginization to frankieallen Jan 2017 #90

Yep! Here is more info/links on the Russian_Calexit connection: Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #129

I would be fine with that. yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #96

They would be dual citizens IF the United States allowed it. pangaia Dec 2016 #3

Yeah, my thoughts too. Likely the Trump regime would say no. If we see the Trump regime stripping RKP5637 Dec 2016 #6

dont think secession. think partition, a la India and Pakistan 1947 - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #58

... but that was a war? n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #61

yeah. So? The best outcome is peaceful partition, but there are KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #66

What about our military bases and representation in Congress? Initech Dec 2016 #4

We have military bases in Europe... angstlessk Dec 2016 #7

I've wondered about that too. There would have to be a cooperative workable plan. I RKP5637 Dec 2016 #20

The divisiveness is all 100% GOP. Initech Dec 2016 #27

Absolutely fascism 101!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #32

Polls? really? I don't think I will ever trust a poll again. frankieallen Jan 2017 #91

True, I won't trust anything Nate Silver says ever again. Initech Jan 2017 #92

We should pick up Oregon, Nevada, Washington State, Hawaii and... Tikki Dec 2016 #5

IF I could afford California home prices... angstlessk Dec 2016 #8

You are aware that B.C. is actually part of Canada, correct? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #13

B.C. pretty much has the same issues as California. Tikki Dec 2016 #19

The top two provinces in terms of GDP are guillaumeb Dec 2016 #23

Talk to many from B.C....I have, for years. Tikki Dec 2016 #30

absolutely. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #77

IF you build it....they will come Horse with no Name Dec 2016 #9

RED STATES hate us for our FREEDOMS. Tikki Dec 2016 #12

That's what I think too! Once the momentum builds, others will join in. Maybe in the big picture it RKP5637 Dec 2016 #25

I have very little in common with the trumpers Horse with no Name Dec 2016 #50

Agree! There are literally impenetrable brick walls between the issues. The divide will not be RKP5637 Dec 2016 #52

I read the Russians would love this.. nini Dec 2016 #10

Yes here my OP: From His Home in Russia, #Calexit Leader Plots California Secession Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #41

thanks for the link nini Dec 2016 #43

i don't make my decisions based on what the ruskies do or don't want. sorry. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #76

I really don't care what you do nini Jan 2017 #87

no you weren't; you were suggesting that people should make decisions based on what you think russi TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #110

LOL nini Jan 2017 #114

So bizarre some people's reactions to the news about the Russian connection to Calexit! Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #128

I've been 'corrected' before on here about the Russia stuff nini Jan 2017 #131

This same "mania" for separation was also popular in Quebec at one time. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #11

America is already Balkanised (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Dec 2016 #14

I would say currently divided. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #15

lol Spider Jerusalem Dec 2016 #18

I feel that economic inequality is fueling the anger, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #21

No, it really isn't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2016 #22

I am talking about the mood of the country. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #24

IMO the Trump voters voted along lines of racism, bigotry and hatred, with jobs thrown in. One could RKP5637 Dec 2016 #28

Anyone remember when we made fun of Texans who wanted to secede? NobodyHere Dec 2016 #16

Yep, times change. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #29

Texas can do what they want...State's rights and all. Tikki Dec 2016 #33

Except secede NobodyHere Dec 2016 #34

Did it go to ballot, State wide? Tikki Dec 2016 #42

I was referring to the Civil War NobodyHere Dec 2016 #46

I don't remember anyone making fun here of Texas because of the Civil War... Tikki Dec 2016 #51

Yes, Texas voted 80 % to secede Yupster Jan 2017 #69

I bet they would....they seem to Hate Us For Our Freedoms. Tikki Jan 2017 #75

speak for yourself. i have never opposed secession for any state that chooses it. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #78

I think this is inevitable, but not yet and not over Trump Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #17

Or we could jump the gun, now. Tikki Dec 2016 #26

now is the time to get the ball rolling. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #79

Does this mean SS and Medicare are ONLY available IF the URSA allows pangaia Dec 2016 #31

So much is in the mix, so much is un-chartered territory, hard to tell what's going to happen over RKP5637 Dec 2016 #36

It's own Country. Tikki Dec 2016 #40

I asked because..... pangaia Dec 2016 #49

Probably won't have anything recognizable as SS or Medicare from the other side. Tikki Dec 2016 #53

yeah,, Without SS and medicare I'm fucked.. as are a lot of other people.. pangaia Dec 2016 #55

For sure... Tikki Dec 2016 #57

The assumption would be that the new nation Yupster Jan 2017 #71

Vermont's GDP of about $30 billion puts it at about a rank of 100 on the list of countries FarCenter Dec 2016 #35

Interesting! Thanks! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #39

Sound fine by me, if that is what these States wants... Tikki Dec 2016 #44

From His Home in Russia, #Calexit Leader Plots California Secession Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #37

This is a very interesting "read" you posted, thanks, as is this too. He sounds quite RW IMO too! RKP5637 Dec 2016 #45

Others are posing this idea...it has actually been around for quite a while. Tikki Dec 2016 #48

if this guy tells you not to kill yourself, are you going to kill yourself to spite him?? who cares TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #81

Its economy won't be so hot once the US imposes a trade embargo onenote Dec 2016 #38

People advocating this are crazy. It will never happen, and it would be a giant boon for Repubs. Calista241 Dec 2016 #47

I think it would be an enormously complex infrastructure, likely to fail in the big picture. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #54

you forgot that California is supplied electricy from other states. n/t oneshooter Dec 2016 #56

I do believe we have our own Nuclear power plants here yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #100

And how do you pay for these projects? oneshooter Jan 2017 #101

California has quite a population, and its a fairly rich state yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #102

And in the 5-10 years it will take to build these plants oneshooter Jan 2017 #104

It can happen. yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #107

All well and good. oneshooter Jan 2017 #126

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #59

I suppose some people need a new fantasy? brooklynite Dec 2016 #60

I wonder what will happen over the next several years if we see the GOP stripping away, for RKP5637 Dec 2016 #63

No, they'll fight for their rights as US citizens; not try to run away. brooklynite Jan 2017 #95

That's what I would do. Although I can see why it might feel good. In the big picture it RKP5637 Jan 2017 #97

Wake up, Russia is behind Calexit. sarcasmo Dec 2016 #62

It would appear to be to their advantage! ... weakness of the US! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #65

who cares what someone in russia is doing... eniwetok Jan 2017 #73

CAN'T BLAME RUSSIANS: proposed CA secession back in 2004 eniwetok Jan 2017 #74

do you seriously think that russians are the only ones who ever thought of secession?? nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #83

Water Vogon_Glory Jan 2017 #67

Better start building desalinization plant now then. Revanchist Jan 2017 #68

This is ridiculous. This is exactly what Russia wants: the breaking up of the u.s. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #70

They could take the whole West coast, and Hawaii with them. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #72

That would decimate the Democratic block in Congress. Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #80

Bullshit denbot Jan 2017 #82

IMO it could lead to devastating times in the US, as it would indicate a failure of democracy. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #85

What it would lead to is civil war II jack_krass Jan 2017 #88

Most likely, this country is so on edge! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #89

why? would you be willing to kill red-staters to keep them from leaving the union? i wouldn't. so wh TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #111

the federal government would never allow a state to leave the union, jack_krass Jan 2017 #119

More russian propaganda. Ilsa Jan 2017 #84

I would like to hope the US can eventually settle these differences within. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #86

we will nini Jan 2017 #109

Why are so many here jumping on the secession bandwagon, frankieallen Jan 2017 #93

Likely a level of frustration and anticipation of what might happen with a Trump regime. RKP5637 Jan 2017 #94

Be fair, frank -- the idea is quite old and was NOT started by that RWer. Back in Nay Jan 2017 #103

seriously; i can't believe so many here are in a lather about the so-called "russian origin" of this TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #115

You don't know what could happen to the economy in California if it did become frankieallen Jan 2017 #98

I don't think anything like this is going to happen. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #112

Interesting idea. I'm open minded lunatica Jan 2017 #98

If by even attempting MFM008 Jan 2017 #105

As much as I can sympathize with this DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #106

I think it would weaken the US significantly, n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #113

Especially if you add Oregon and Washington. That would be a country I would be very OregonBlue Jan 2017 #108