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8. I am not sure that you understand admin rights

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 06:13 AM

Jan 2017

The article is talking about admin rights to the network. Even if it is an administration laptop, it does not have admin rights. For instance, you probably have a company laptop, that connects to the company network, but you and your laptop do not have admin rights, because you are not the admin. In the same way that you do not have the rights to buy a new office building because you are not the CEO, even though you work in an office building.

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Lets be clear, Russian malware code was found on a Vermont utility company laptop [View all] LaydeeBug Jan 2017 OP

If someone had hooked that computer to the company network, that malware would have been shraby Jan 2017 #1

The question is whether that EVER was even a remote possibility karynnj Jan 2017 #15

They use the malware to fish contacts and jump elsewhere in the network using a colleagues email bettyellen Jan 2017 #28

I understand and that is why I think that you need a utility controlling computer system to be on karynnj Jan 2017 #29

Need but we don't have. It's the kind of human error that allowed the hacks against Dems and bettyellen Jan 2017 #30

We do not know that karynnj Jan 2017 #32

Depends how the lap top was used Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 #33

That's why I said "we do not Know" rather than It is not true -- karynnj Jan 2017 #34

No, that isn't the question either. Russia was and is trying to Hortensis Jan 2017 #47

"So yes finding a standalone company laptop at the site with code that has been identified as Russia Cha Jan 2017 #2

There is also the testimony our DNI James Clapper sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #3

Quotes from a libertarian source from mid September -- ie not talking about this at all karynnj Jan 2017 #16

Maybe they should sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #17

Intentional misunderstanding of my point karynnj Jan 2017 #18

That testimony still shows that the grid is compromised sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #23

Only if you believe this right wing source and the two right wing sources they link to karynnj Jan 2017 #24

I should have looked further. sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #25

Sorry for the snark - I should been less rude. karynnj Jan 2017 #26

I think we can all get a little snarky on occasion when things are this serious sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #38

So I wonder what the chances are that the laptop *has* connected to the network Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #4

exactly nt sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #6

Exactly. The electric company does NOT say the laptop was never connected pnwmom Jan 2017 #7

Thank you! I've been surprised to read DUers minimizing the significance of this. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #5

I am not sure that you understand admin rights HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #8

Great analogy TexasProgresive Jan 2017 #9

I think the LT being ON the network at all is the more important issue, not whether they user from uponit7771 Jan 2017 #10

No it really can't HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #12

I'm not to argue just to argue... my point is without network access it HARDER to do damage uponit7771 Jan 2017 #14

Can you imagine the implications if this happens on a greater scale? smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #11

are we supposed to pretend it *didn't*? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #20

I'm not quite sure what you mean. smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #21

Strange connections? marked50 Jan 2017 #13

Not likely - the mayor publicly supported Clinton and after the primaries HRC was supported by most karynnj Jan 2017 #19

I guess they never stopped fighting the Cold War NightWatcher Jan 2017 #22

Putin wants revenge for a lot of things. AngryAmish Jan 2017 #46

Nonetheless you will see repeated attempts here and elsewhere to downplay this. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #27

This. bettyellen Jan 2017 #31

Absolutely. Kingofalldems Jan 2017 #39

Lots of Infowars-inspired denial/diversion on DU Hortensis Jan 2017 #48

To spread the Stuxnet virus in Iran,CIA operatives left thumbdrives laying around employees houses. Swede Jan 2017 #35

false equivalence. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #37

Malware whether on a thumbdrive or a laptop is malware. Swede Jan 2017 #40

Because it attempts to marginalize the cyber WAR that was launched against the USA LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #43

Right on, this country needs to wake up and realize we're in a Cyber War. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #36

Oh, but LaydeeBug, don't you know? There's nothing to see here! Nothing at all! Squinch Jan 2017 #41

K & R Scurrilous Jan 2017 #42

The lack of updates seems to indicate that the article was wrong HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #49

Russia has full control of our electrical grid. AngryAmish Jan 2017 #45

Oh riiiiiiiiight. sure LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #50