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If someone had hooked that computer to the company network, that malware would have been shraby Jan 2017 #1
The question is whether that EVER was even a remote possibility karynnj Jan 2017 #15
They use the malware to fish contacts and jump elsewhere in the network using a colleagues email bettyellen Jan 2017 #28
I understand and that is why I think that you need a utility controlling computer system to be on karynnj Jan 2017 #29
Need but we don't have. It's the kind of human error that allowed the hacks against Dems and bettyellen Jan 2017 #30
We do not know that karynnj Jan 2017 #32
Depends how the lap top was used Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 #33
That's why I said "we do not Know" rather than It is not true -- karynnj Jan 2017 #34
No, that isn't the question either. Russia was and is trying to Hortensis Jan 2017 #47
"So yes finding a standalone company laptop at the site with code that has been identified as Russia Cha Jan 2017 #2
There is also the testimony our DNI James Clapper sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #3
Quotes from a libertarian source from mid September -- ie not talking about this at all karynnj Jan 2017 #16
Maybe they should sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #17
Intentional misunderstanding of my point karynnj Jan 2017 #18
That testimony still shows that the grid is compromised sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #23
Only if you believe this right wing source and the two right wing sources they link to karynnj Jan 2017 #24
I should have looked further. sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #25
Sorry for the snark - I should been less rude. karynnj Jan 2017 #26
I think we can all get a little snarky on occasion when things are this serious sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #38
So I wonder what the chances are that the laptop *has* connected to the network Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #4
exactly nt sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #6
Exactly. The electric company does NOT say the laptop was never connected pnwmom Jan 2017 #7
Thank you! I've been surprised to read DUers minimizing the significance of this. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #5
I am not sure that you understand admin rights HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #8
Great analogy TexasProgresive Jan 2017 #9
I think the LT being ON the network at all is the more important issue, not whether they user from uponit7771 Jan 2017 #10
No it really can't HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #12
I'm not to argue just to argue... my point is without network access it HARDER to do damage uponit7771 Jan 2017 #14
Can you imagine the implications if this happens on a greater scale? smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #11
are we supposed to pretend it *didn't*? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #20
I'm not quite sure what you mean. smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #21
Strange connections? marked50 Jan 2017 #13
Not likely - the mayor publicly supported Clinton and after the primaries HRC was supported by most karynnj Jan 2017 #19
I guess they never stopped fighting the Cold War NightWatcher Jan 2017 #22
Putin wants revenge for a lot of things. AngryAmish Jan 2017 #46
Nonetheless you will see repeated attempts here and elsewhere to downplay this. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #27
This. bettyellen Jan 2017 #31
Absolutely. Kingofalldems Jan 2017 #39
Lots of Infowars-inspired denial/diversion on DU Hortensis Jan 2017 #48
To spread the Stuxnet virus in Iran,CIA operatives left thumbdrives laying around employees houses. Swede Jan 2017 #35
false equivalence. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #37
Malware whether on a thumbdrive or a laptop is malware. Swede Jan 2017 #40
Because it attempts to marginalize the cyber WAR that was launched against the USA LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #43
Right on, this country needs to wake up and realize we're in a Cyber War. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #36
Oh, but LaydeeBug, don't you know? There's nothing to see here! Nothing at all! Squinch Jan 2017 #41
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2017 #42
The lack of updates seems to indicate that the article was wrong HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #49
Russia has full control of our electrical grid. AngryAmish Jan 2017 #45
Oh riiiiiiiiight. sure LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #50
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