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eniwetok

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32. I don't have a plan
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:22 PM
Jan 2017

I have some principles how I believe we should conduct trade to protect domestic workers and industry. But I'm also on record below that free trade is a trap that we were stupid to fall into because it will be difficult to untangle.

As for other nations... I never said I don't care about them. I'm on record that I do but unlike you I don't see amoral and exploitative corporations as being their saviors. But obviously in your book if they're willing to be exploited, then exploiting them is fair game. AGAIN, this is a right wing meme.

So pray tell, how did your plan work out with China? Yup, the communist government was more than willing to let its labor force be exploited. It exacted technology transfers from US companies and got new equipment where US based companies didn't. And now China may soon become a strategic American foe.

As for your amusing claim " Fact is, if we don't trade globally, those here will suffer and many more will become poor."

I'm retirement age and seem to recall that the US did pretty well BEFORE free trade. Free trade as part of the right's war on labor, undercut labor's power and that is one of the big reasons all the economic gains are going to the top. Insecure workers don't ask for raises... here OR overseas.

So once again... the corporate owners aren't making the sacrifices. But then you probably think to the "job creators" go the spoils.

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During the campaign, he talked about raising tariffs 35% RDANGELO Jan 2017 #1
Nothing because the republican congress will never allow it onecaliberal Jan 2017 #2
THIS Cosmocat Jan 2017 #5
Trade is not as simple as the article tries to make it. The tariffs Trump talked about could set Hoyt Jan 2017 #3
Right wing meme.... eniwetok Jan 2017 #7
There's really no way to change it unless you think we will be better off trading among ourselves. Hoyt Jan 2017 #8
that's not our history eniwetok Jan 2017 #9
The world is very different now. We have competent competitors who can do much of what we do. Hoyt Jan 2017 #10
so we sacrifice US workers for foreign farmers eniwetok Jan 2017 #11
I'm sorry, I am not a Nationalist, America First type when it comes to sharing the world's wealth. Hoyt Jan 2017 #12
you're avoiding the question of who makes the sacrifice eniwetok Jan 2017 #13
Most people in this country are the world's 10%ers. I'm for helping those who aren't. Hoyt Jan 2017 #14
OK, you're making the moral case... that right wingers often make eniwetok Jan 2017 #15
Well, you are making the argument that Trump supporters make. We live in a big world, so yeah Hoyt Jan 2017 #16
If they are... they stole the argument from... eniwetok Jan 2017 #17
Almost everyone here will make the sacrifice for trade wars, isolationism, etc. Those hurt worst, Hoyt Jan 2017 #18
you're moving the goal post.... eniwetok Jan 2017 #19
I get that you could care less about people in foreign countries. Fact is, if we don't trade Hoyt Jan 2017 #20
you're still moving the goal post. eniwetok Jan 2017 #22
Sadly, small towns don't have much future if you want more than they have to offer. Hoyt Jan 2017 #28
where did I ever say Trump would change anything? eniwetok Jan 2017 #31
I never said I came from a small town eniwetok Jan 2017 #33
I don't have a plan eniwetok Jan 2017 #32
on nationalism eniwetok Jan 2017 #21
Do you work for a corporation? You and a couple of friends can start Hoyt Jan 2017 #29
more of your goal post moving... eniwetok Jan 2017 #30
He will use trade to try to prove he is a genius Generic Brad Jan 2017 #4
free trade was a trap eniwetok Jan 2017 #6
Trump was just playing people; the fast-food CEO labor secretary proves it. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #23
Trump's view on labor is what we'd expect from a "billionaire" eniwetok Jan 2017 #24
what were you agreeing to? eniwetok Jan 2017 #25
I'm generally agreeing with Dean Baker portlander23 Jan 2017 #26
I agree with that... eniwetok Jan 2017 #27
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