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ehrnst

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67. I don't either, but Bernie seems to be the exception to all the "we need young blood"

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 01:27 PM

Jan 2017

in the party.

And the only reason that many of his fans are even considering a woman as old as Elizabeth Warren - even after vilifying her for supporting Hillary - is that Bernie has blessed her with his approval.

Any other woman older than 50, particularly of color, seems to be dismissed out of hand. And the minute Hillary got pneumonia, Bernie fans were demanding she step down and let "vigorous" Bernie (who I believe knew he had melanoma back in July) step in.

I think that if someone is still going strong, we should absolutely have them in party leadership.

The presidency may be another situation, as that is a major stressor. I did have concerns about Hillary's age, but felt she was much healthier than Bernie, as women are usually healthier than men of the same age at that point.

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Bernie Sanders Announces His Anti-Trump Agenda On 'Rachel Maddow' & It's Pretty Revolutionary [View all] portlander23 Jan 2017 OP

Bernie is my spirit animal but retrowire Jan 2017 #1

Draw attention to the Republican plans to cut and privatize the social safety net. Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #2

Generate energy around an issue, bring awareness and attention. CousinIT Jan 2017 #7

Bernie always knows where to shine the light of truth... just have to follow his lead! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #103

Give us one more chance to save the social safety net. Orsino Jan 2017 #25

It will change the minds of the KGOP and Benedict Donald cause they can't hold rallies uponit7771 Jan 2017 #54

How are you doing, retrowire? potone Jan 2017 #83

I'm not sad. retrowire Jan 2017 #92

Nor have I. potone Jan 2017 #98

When Bernie Sanders ran for president SecularMotion Jan 2017 #3

Time will tell. CentralMass Jan 2017 #4

What policies of the Democratic party did he speak against? aintitfunny Jan 2017 #5

accepting corporate money. n/t yodermon Jan 2017 #79

Well done. dionysus Jan 2017 #101

As I remember, Sanders consistently spoke in support of Democratic policies and principles CousinIT Jan 2017 #8

Nope. Some people just see what they want to see. dionysus Jan 2017 #102

You seem to be making things up. -nt Bradical79 Jan 2017 #107

..."he drew large crowds by speaking against the policies of the Democratic Party." demmiblue Jan 2017 #9

So did Nader. HUGE crowds. How's that going, BTW? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #15

Yeah, you're right, Why bother. pangaia Jan 2017 #26

Eh? In what world are Bernie's policies ... mwooldri Jan 2017 #30

Bernie campaigned against the Democratic Party establishment. SecularMotion Jan 2017 #43

I went to a few of his rallies and never once heard him speak against Democratic policies. woodsprite Jan 2017 #53

My millennial aged Bernie supporting son is going to a protest tomorrow for PP and abortion rights. kickitup Jan 2017 #59

That's not why he drew large crowds. George II Jan 2017 #60

He drew many voters from outside the Democratic Party SecularMotion Jan 2017 #72

And as we've found out since, many of them didn't vote for Democratic candidates. George II Jan 2017 #73

That's a good thing, Secmo. We need to cultivate and grow these people... Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #75

I was a solid Hillary supporter. I accept, given her loss and her age, that her era is over. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #6

We have Pelosi, Sanders Warren and Schumer CousinIT Jan 2017 #10

Then why didn't you include Hillary in your list ? Sanders' era is over as well IMO. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #12

Cuz right now she's on a well-deserved break. Beartracks Jan 2017 #81

Yes, we need to work with and support THEM - ALL of them.... George II Jan 2017 #28

Agreed. We are in a hell of a lot of trouble here. CousinIT Jan 2017 #50

Are you responding to George? sheshe2 Jan 2017 #82

OMG. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #80

Are you suggesting he's too old to be a leading figure bullwinkle428 Jan 2017 #11

I'm suggesting that the Democrats' bench is thin. I'm suggesting that we must move on from Trust Buster Jan 2017 #14

"Fresh blood?" To paraphrase Bernie, "It's not enough to be young." ehrnst Jan 2017 #19

When I mention "youth", I'm not referring to 21 year olds. Republicans will control the WH, the Trust Buster Jan 2017 #21

Not necessarily. mwooldri Jan 2017 #33

Registered Democrats have an embarrassing midterm turnout track record. I wouldn't hold your Trust Buster Jan 2017 #42

Neither was I. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #64

Ok then, what are the "young" ones proposing to do? LakeArenal Jan 2017 #13

The "young ones" will remain in the shadows if Hillary, Sanders and Pelosi continue to suck up Trust Buster Jan 2017 #17

"Suck up all the oxygen?" What does that even mean? ehrnst Jan 2017 #85

Don't diss experience. We need that now more than ever. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #16

I value experience but I also value up and coming talent. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #18

You said that the experienced ones were "sucking up all the oxygen" ehrnst Jan 2017 #20

You mean that President Obama is not experienced because he's not old enough to qualify for Trust Buster Jan 2017 #22

So name someone who is cued up and ready to throw cause the game starts in 16 days. Vilis Veritas Jan 2017 #49

Warren will be way to old for this crowd. Unless the oldest of them all blesses her... (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #63

Straw man. Medicare does not experience - and has nothing to do with what I was talking about. ehrnst Jan 2017 #62

Like who? Let's have some names. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #52

Tim Ryan, Kristin Gillabrand, Debbie Stabenauer (sp) to name a few. They need to be highlighted Trust Buster Jan 2017 #68

So, they need to be "highlighted" like the DNC did with Hillary? ehrnst Jan 2017 #87

Bernie has more youth and vigor than a lot of vigorous youths. pangaia Jan 2017 #27

The next battleground is 2020. It's about the future and developing a strong Democratic bench IMO Trust Buster Jan 2017 #31

NO, The next battleground is right now. pangaia Jan 2017 #32

Not much of a battleground right now. Either the Dems have the votes to sustain a filibuster on a Trust Buster Jan 2017 #40

So we the people just cower in the corner for 4 years while the hill people figure it out? Vilis Veritas Jan 2017 #48

Speak for yourself - where I live there is a school board, county council ehrnst Jan 2017 #96

I think you need to refresh your memory with respect to the OP. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #100

The OP was talking about grassroots action. ehrnst Jan 2017 #106

thank you.... dhill926 Jan 2017 #44

I don't either, but Bernie seems to be the exception to all the "we need young blood" ehrnst Jan 2017 #67

What Bernie are you talking about? Sanders is battling melanoma right now. ehrnst Jan 2017 #65

On matters of youth and vigor, I'll look to Bernie's supporters. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #76

No one is stopping anyone younger or more vigorous from doing anything... TCJ70 Jan 2017 #39

I think Tim Ryan would have been a breath of fresh air as Pelosi's replacement. Now, Pelosi will Trust Buster Jan 2017 #41

No disagreement here... TCJ70 Jan 2017 #45

She was selected by her peers. Perhaps they know more than we do. ehrnst Jan 2017 #89

Pelosi had her moment. She has become stale. We need to move on IMO. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #91

There is a reason that it is up to her peers and not someone ehrnst Jan 2017 #94

There is a reason why President Obama must leave after two terms. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #99

What does that have to do with the minority leader? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #105

When the same leadership is in place for a decade or more they become stale, rigid and dictatorial Trust Buster Jan 2017 #108

That's not why the president has term limits. The 22nd amendment does not apply to congress ehrnst Jan 2017 #109

Sanders is not the only career politician keeping issues out front and engaging the public. ehrnst Jan 2017 #84

I didn't say he's the only one...n/t TCJ70 Jan 2017 #86

I didn't say Sanders wasn't out there. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #88

I didn't say you did...n/t TCJ70 Jan 2017 #90

Straw men get tiresome. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #95

I wouldn't know. n/t TCJ70 Jan 2017 #97

You are a prodigy, then! (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #110

Thanks! N/t TCJ70 Jan 2017 #111

What are the specific policy changes that youth, and only youth can supply? LanternWaste Jan 2017 #58

You missed the point entirely. It takes years to develop Democratic leaders on a national stage. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #74

Sanders is still in Congress. His era is not over. Hillary is not in Congress. panader0 Jan 2017 #70

How many times are you going to post this? George II Jan 2017 #23

Somebody alerted on your post. It seems the alert stalkers are back, if they ever left. Tanuki Jan 2017 #35

Thank you. George II Jan 2017 #36

I had not seen this previously RussBLib Jan 2017 #61

Well there have been at least two on the DU home page in the last day...... George II Jan 2017 #66

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #24

Sanders is planning them? I don't think so. George II Jan 2017 #37

Please stop bashing our Dems.. There's no need to take a dump on Cha Jan 2017 #38

The thing is I don't think it's Sanders who is planning all of those rallies, either. It is... George II Jan 2017 #51

Well I thank Nancy Pelosi, Schumer, and the Democratic Leaders in Cha Jan 2017 #55

Idol Worship Me. Jan 2017 #104

Sic 'em Bernard!!! pangaia Jan 2017 #29

While I applaud Bernie for what he is doing, I remain skeptical that a series of rallies will change still_one Jan 2017 #34

On rallies and effectiveness: I'll take ANYTHING on the table, except inaction. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #77

I sincerely hope this kicks off IntraPolitico Jan 2017 #46

Although not what I would call "revolutionary"........ socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #47

Sanders town hall on CNN January 9th PDittie Jan 2017 #56

We're gonna need an events calendar at this rate portlander23 Jan 2017 #57

K and R panader0 Jan 2017 #69

Unless it's going to be 100% obstruction on everything, I'm not interested... Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #71

Well, trump said he will support SS & Medicare, presumably against the GOPers. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #78

Trump flips his positions on everything every 24-36 hours... Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #93

You're right about that. But the GOPers may pass a bill, and it winds up on his desk... Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #112

Let's see him stand up to the Russians. I'd be impressed. Right now he just says Dems suck/ed. JTFrog Jan 2017 #113