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In reply to the discussion: If Democracy Is The Basis For Morally Legitimate Government... [View all]DemocratSinceBirth
(101,857 posts)14. So what kind of system did we have in those 3-4 years between ratification and the Bill Of Rights?
"So what kind of system did we have in those 3-4 years between ratification and the Bill Of Rights?"
A system where blacks, women, and the landless couldn't vote. Shit, if you put universal suffrage to a vote it might not pass today, in many parts of the nation.
My rights are not subject to a plebiscite. Over my body and mind I am sovereign. You can not vote to tell me what to do with it. You can not vote to deprive me of a vote, the way a lot of my black brothers and sisters were deprived of a vote until 1965.
You're all over the board... conflating democracy without limits and democratic representation.
The only limits in a majoritarian democracy are the limits 50.1% of the populace demands. What part of that don't you understand ?
Here's a question. If Arkansas had a referendum to ban marriage between people of the same gender and it passed with a majority of the vote would they be justified in banning those marriages ?
Of course not because we have rights that are not subject to plebiscite.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2017
#2
If we had a plebiscitary democracy a lot of the rights we now enjoy we would no longer have.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2017
#7
So what kind of system did we have in those 3-4 years between ratification and the Bill Of Rights?
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2017
#14
But is it? It's a long read, but still nobody's done it better than...
TreasonousBastard
Jan 2017
#6
What if "the people" decided to try out that philosopher king for a while? It's not so easy to...
TreasonousBastard
Jan 2017
#22
Be as appalled as you like-- people built the system and people maintain it...
TreasonousBastard
Jan 2017
#26
In our system there is no difference between principle and the Democratic Party
gulliver
Jan 2017
#27