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eniwetok

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28. Are you running from your own post?
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jan 2017

I'm not relying on Bowen... I only brought it up because it actually dealt with the presidency and the decision you originally cited dealt with states setting term limits for Congress. But both dealt with states creating standards... when the issue here was whether Congress could create extra layers of vetting for the presidency which has unique responsibilities unlike any ordinary member of Congress. But the reliance on SCOTUS decisions isn't always the best gauge of anything. By that standard the Ninth remains relatively meaningless because there's little caselaw on the Ninth... even if it's central to defining the limits of government power over individual rights. We've seen the social conservatives on the Court trying to negate the Ninth. SCOTUS decisions have been reversed... such as Lawrence v. Texas and new doctrines can be developed to turn even clear constitutional language on its head... such as Heller which bastardized the clear intent of the Second (Scalia certainly wasn't going to find an individual right to own a firearm in the Ninth).

So you are correct nothing specifically in the Constitution gives Congress authority to impose new eligibility standards on the office of the President... but the key word here is "specifically"... and again I raise the flexibility inherent in the Supremacy Clause which includes: "the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof". It's not a stretch to believe this can't be expanded should a president like Trump prove to be unfit as Commander in Chief. The current approach would be for him to be found unfit under the 25th. But to deal with future Trumps... Congress would find some way to be sure candidates were better vetted.

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At the very least. Yes. n/t Guilded Lilly Jan 2017 #1
Wasn't California going to pass a bill to make this a ballot access requirement? LonePirate Jan 2017 #2
States are going to get creative now- NY w tuition, Cali w this law.. bettyellen Jan 2017 #10
Yes and there is a similar bill being pursued here in Massachusetts as well mythology Jan 2017 #27
I think you're on the right track and they should be considered as part of the financial disclosures Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #3
It would act as a pre-filter SHRED Jan 2017 #4
Agree mountain grammy Jan 2017 #5
What I think is irrelevant; if it's not in the Constitution it doesn't matter. brooklynite Jan 2017 #6
But the KGOP is all about state's rights. If states pass laws barring anyone from being on the OregonBlue Jan 2017 #7
ahh..but income tax wasn't levied when the Constitution was drafted. sdfernando Jan 2017 #13
OF COURSE it's in the Constitution eniwetok Jan 2017 #19
And would be shot down unanimously by SCOTUS Uggwearingdad Jan 2017 #20
specifically what crap? eniwetok Jan 2017 #21
Imposing qualifications beyond those in the Constitution is unconstitutional onenote Jan 2017 #22
Well played... Uggwearingdad Jan 2017 #23
you're not defending your own argument. eniwetok Jan 2017 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #30
that decision was about state term limits for Congress eniwetok Jan 2017 #24
The fact that you like to make up your own version of the law doesn't make it real law. onenote Jan 2017 #26
Are you running from your own post? eniwetok Jan 2017 #28
No. I'm not sure what would remotely make you think so. onenote Jan 2017 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #31
Yes, I've been part of those discussions as well. onenote Jan 2017 #32
because eniwetok Jan 2017 #38
Again, you're wrong. onenote Jan 2017 #41
we're never going to agree eniwetok Jan 2017 #42
The bounds of the Constitution have been expanded since Hamilton proposed a national bank. eniwetok Jan 2017 #43
Actually, it may be OK for the individual states to require tax returns to be on the ballot. WillowTree Jan 2017 #33
No it wouldn't onenote Jan 2017 #35
Hmmmmm.........of course you're right. WillowTree Jan 2017 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #36
I agree with half your statement. The other half is a legal and logical fallacy. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #34
Absolutely. BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #8
Sad that it should have to be a requirement ToxMarz Jan 2017 #9
And a world geography exam, US Constitution exam, They_Live Jan 2017 #11
How would you get those currently elected to vote TNNurse Jan 2017 #12
You'd have to do what they always do, exempt hughee99 Jan 2017 #16
Tax returns a must bdamomma Jan 2017 #14
Absolutely n/t TicaTwo Jan 2017 #15
It's a good idea, but will require legislation. MineralMan Jan 2017 #17
good idea ...... never get to the floor Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #18
AGREE 100% TrekLuver Jan 2017 #39
All candidates need to be vetted in regards to money owed, and what, countries/mobsters sarcasmo Jan 2017 #40
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