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Ghost OF Trotsky

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133. Maybe so.

Reply to forjusticethunders (Reply #110)

Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:52 PM

Jan 2017

Maybe people should be paid according to the calories they burn. I'd think that more fair than someone inheriting a few million and being praised because they managed to turn that into billions in debt.

Just saying that I understand that mindset- "If you aren't working, you should be looking for work and willing to take any job offered", what I grew up with. Can't conceive of not applying for 10-20 jobs a day and being willing to move anywhere and clean toilets or scoop gutters if I were unemployed again. This is a mindset of a lot of people, not all of them have developed the quasi Marxist viewpoint I've come to as seeing it being a problem of the capitalist system. Am I brainwashed by academia, or are my friends and acquaintances victims of Stockholm Syndrome?

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