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In reply to the discussion: Alt-Right Trolls Use Chicago Kidnapping to Spread Lies About Black Lives Matter [View all]SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)36. From the article you shared with me.
He met up with them for a prearranged meetup.
Police said Hill knew the victim because they had attended the same school in Aurora. On Saturday, the victim's family dropped him off at a McDonald's in Streamwood to meet Hill, with plans to spend the night at his place.
Hill stole a van before picking up the victim and passed it off as his own, police said. The pair drove to Chicago's West Side, visiting with friends for two days. The victim slept in the van before arriving at the apartment on Lexington apartment where the Covington sisters lived on Tuesday.
Hours into the visit, the victim and Hill were engaged in a "play fight" when it got out of hand, police said. The sisters got angry and tied him up, police said. "That's when the attack begins," Duffin said.
Hill stole a van before picking up the victim and passed it off as his own, police said. The pair drove to Chicago's West Side, visiting with friends for two days. The victim slept in the van before arriving at the apartment on Lexington apartment where the Covington sisters lived on Tuesday.
Hours into the visit, the victim and Hill were engaged in a "play fight" when it got out of hand, police said. The sisters got angry and tied him up, police said. "That's when the attack begins," Duffin said.
The kidnapping charge springs from them keeping him against his will for those 5 hours(which legally fits the definition of kidnapping), not them meeting him at McDonalds and hanging out for 2 days.
We've had it out quite a bit and I'm really not trying to fight with you. I'm also not trying to say this was anything less than a hideous crime. What I'm saying is that for this case to get the sentence upgrade that a hate crime provides, the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that him being a member of a protected class was their motive. Now I don't think these girls would have felt entitled to tie him up and do these things to him if he weren't disabled, but then again people do despicable shit daily without connecting it to class related motives. Whether or not this falls under the legal definition of a hate crime, it doesn't diminish the crime or the fact that they should be seeing the inside of a jail for a long time.
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Alt-Right Trolls Use Chicago Kidnapping to Spread Lies About Black Lives Matter [View all]
Grey Lemercier
Jan 2017
OP
It was a hate crime, they've been charged with a hate crime, against a disabled person.
uppityperson
Jan 2017
#14
The example that you used actually wouldn't fit the definition of most hate crime laws.
SaschaHM
Jan 2017
#20
That "example" is what this thread is about, and WHY they HAVE been charged with a hate crime
uppityperson
Jan 2017
#23
Please don't accuse me of things when I'm just trying to add some knowledge into the discussion.
SaschaHM
Jan 2017
#25
I apologise, am very sorry, yes did get you confused with someone else. My sincere apology
uppityperson
Jan 2017
#34
The "alt-right" that typically complains about hate crime laws is about to learn how...
SaschaHM
Jan 2017
#19
1 of them knew him from school & they picked him because he was disabled. UPDATE article
uppityperson
Jan 2017
#24
Then that makes it a hate crime, but I'm not seeing where it says they attacked him
SaschaHM
Jan 2017
#27
Would they have taken him, then kidnapped and assaulted him if he weren't disabled?
uppityperson
Jan 2017
#31