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In reply to the discussion: Killer Is Proud American Gun Owner [View all]Buckeye_Democrat
(15,527 posts)76. Not all gun owners are bad people, obviously, but I wish we had stricter gun regulations...
like Germany. (I like their universal free healthcare too! An 8% tax on income, as I understand it.)
https://www.thelocal.de/20160616/five-things-to-know-about-guns-in-germany-us-gun-control-laws
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To get a gun, Germans must first obtain a firearms ownership license (Waffenbesitzkarte) - and you may need a different one for each weapon you buy - or a license to carry (Waffenschein).
Applicants for a license must be at least 18 years old and undergo whats called a reliability check, which includes checking for criminal records, whether the person is an alcohol or drug addict, whether they have mental illness or any other attributes that might make them questionable to authorities.
The also have to pass a specialized knowledge test on guns and people younger than 25 applying for their first license must go through a psychiatric evaluation.
One must also prove a specific and approved need for the weapon, which is mainly limited to use by hunters, competitive marksmen, collectors and security workers - not for self-defence.
Once you have a license, youre also limited in the number of and kinds of guns you may own, depending on what kind of license you have: Fully automatic weapons are banned for all, while semiautomatic firearms are banned for anything other than hunting or competitive shooting...
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But even given Germanys strict gun policies, the country was still home to the fourth-highest number of legal guns per capita in 2013, falling behind just the United States, Switzerland and Finland...
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But even given the relatively high amount of guns in the country, Germany has one of the lowest rates of gun-related deaths each year, according to international GunPolicy.org research by the University of Sydney.
Over the past 20 years, crimes against life - which include murder as well as negligent manslaughter - that involve guns have dropped from 783 in 1995 to 130 in 2015, according to the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA).
Of those crimes last year, just 57 were intentional murders.
This of course pales in comparison to the rates in the US, where firearm homicides surpass 11,000 people killed each year or roughly 3.5 deaths per 100,000 people, according to GunPolicy.org.
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Just like you can give us no assurance any vehicle operator isn't the next Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel
Marengo
Jan 2017
#20
Collective indictments, such as you articulated in post #1, are a right wing characteristic.
Marengo
Jan 2017
#26
The Party platform condemns every American gun owner as desiring to be mass killer?
Marengo
Jan 2017
#52
How is a mass killer in a truck a "false equivalency" to a mass killer with a gun?
EX500rider
Jan 2017
#34
No I do not, I think trucks are more dangerous in the hands of a mass killer.
EX500rider
Jan 2017
#44
And yet a vehicle, used as a weapon, killed 86 in a single event. Fairly effective for something...
Marengo
Jan 2017
#54
Design intent is irrelevant from a public safety perspective. Now that has been established that...
Marengo
Jan 2017
#104
Again, design intent is the only relevant issue from a public safety perspective.
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#109
And yet 4 more were just killed by something not designed as a weapon being used as a weapon.
Marengo
Jan 2017
#115
How about answering my question? What am I to infer from your refusal to do so?
Marengo
Jan 2017
#120
And now you may post a link to where I've said such a thing, or retract. If you have the integrity.
Marengo
Jan 2017
#122
You have neither apparently. I'll ask you again for a link to where I have indicated I am...
Marengo
Jan 2017
#124
Not accepting that, it's too specific and cannot be reasonable deduced from the content of my...
Marengo
Jan 2017
#126
No, it does not for the reason I articulated. There is no probability that such a position can be...
Marengo
Jan 2017
#128
My nephew did 5 tours in Iraq, my son did one in Afganistan and one in Kuwait.
oneshooter
Jan 2017
#89
Gunners stick a gun on their hip for it's intimidation value, well and as a compensator.
Hoyt
Jan 2017
#113
Oh, FFS. How the fuck am I supposed to determine who is responsible and who
madinmaryland
Jan 2017
#99
It's not up to you to 'determine' anything- if it's legal, MYOB. If not, leave and call 911
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2017
#108
It's my understanding that those Americans with guns were in well regulated military units.
Crunchy Frog
Jan 2017
#36
I'm sure they are, but I doubt that their being gun owners in civilian life
Crunchy Frog
Jan 2017
#42
Simply Google: 'ISIS one finger salute pictures' - and see if anything looks familiar.
jonno99
Jan 2017
#66
Not all gun owners are bad people, obviously, but I wish we had stricter gun regulations...
Buckeye_Democrat
Jan 2017
#76