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exboyfil

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27. You can look at the statistics two ways
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:37 AM
Jan 2017

Confrontations with citizens dropped from 50,000 to 8,800
Arrests dropped from 8,800 to 6,900.

So in other words life threatening confrontations drop 41,200 but arrests only drop 3,100. It seems these confrontations (or stop and question) were horribly ineffective anyway (note the number of arrests) and every one of these poses the risk of a civil rights violation, lawsuit, loss of career, incarceration for the LEO, death to the LEO and/or the citizen.

Do we have evidence that reported crimes are not being investigated or that LEOs are not detaining when a crime has been observed?

When the majority of this board went crazy over the North Carolina shooting (the man exits the car with a cocked pistol and refuses to drop it after being ordered multiple times, he is shot, and lifesaving measures are immediately applied). The argument on this board was that the man should never have been confronted. He displayed a gun and had an illegal substance (whether that substance should be illegal or not - it is not relevant). In the future, unless he is pointing that gun at kids, I am giving him a pass. That is what they are doing in Chicago now.

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I posted this earlier about Germany in another thread, but here it is again. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #1
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This OR Cosmocat Jan 2017 #8
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He won't. cwydro Jan 2017 #30
You may be right, so far silence. I wonder why? Embarrassed to explain his position in detail? Marengo Jan 2017 #35
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I'd like for him to explain how he is anything other than common himself. Marengo Jan 2017 #38
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THIS is America 2016 Cosmocat Jan 2017 #10
Agree. Snackshack Jan 2017 #6
Righteous Rant Cosmocat Jan 2017 #7
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"not allowed to do their jobs anymore?" rgbecker Jan 2017 #26
You can look at the statistics two ways exboyfil Jan 2017 #27
Well, that's really working well in Chicago. rgbecker Jan 2017 #29
while I don't agree with this dsc Jan 2017 #33
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Like they say in Pence-Sylvania DFW Jan 2017 #21
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No. He has a valid point. nt cwydro Jan 2017 #37
You just broke my irony meter hack89 Jan 2017 #43
you're ignored. Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #44
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