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In reply to the discussion: Lifting the 435 seat limit on the size of the U.S. House would make the Electoral College fairer. [View all]Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)also in their single member district. 25 national legislative bodies around the world are larger than the US House of Representatives. 26 if you count the European Parliament (which is 76% bigger). China's National People's Congress has almost 3000 members. Here in the UK the total size of Parliament is 1472 (House of Lords 822, House of Commons 650). Adjust for population and we would have 7500 or so if we were the size of the US! Sweden has 349 Riksdag members for a country under 10 million. The US would need over 11,500 to match that ratio! The ONLY country with a worse ratio in terms of members of the lower house's number of people represented is the soon-to-be biggest nation in the world, India.
I absolutely disagree that a 300,000 population district for every House member (which yields around 1083 House members) is going to be "mob-like" and undoable. That is still TEN times more people than the 30,000 per House member we started off at.
The technology today versus the 1780's enables massive gains in productivity and time management. Increased member numbers would mean less expensive races, more time to concentrate on constituents back home, and of course, FUNDAMENTALLY UNFUCK the large states and large cities who are kettled into disempowerment vis-a-vis the small states under the current situation. I have no problem with compromising on the numbers, but in NO WAY can we go lower than the Wyoming Rule, and that is far too little, IMHO.
The USA 2010 Census population was 309 million. Right now we are around 325.5 million, so let's say 332 million in 2020. Thats 763,000 or so person per House member. That is more than 25 TIMES the number of people per House Rep that we started out with. The longer we wait to do this, the bigger the unfairness becomes, and, to be partisan, the more and more we, as Democrats, will get ratfucked on every level. Urban drift is killing our electoral power, and it is exploding.The EC will never be done away with, and the National Voter Compact will be found unconstitutional via the Compact Clause in the Constitution.
The only other solution is truly radical, hard and logistically a true nightmare.
Exodus Blue, a truly radical possible solution
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The Electoral College is not going away, the House size, and thus the EC's number of votes, will not be increased and rectify vast inequities in the states (that is my truly favourite fix, but Rethugs will block it).
Sooooo, I say MOVE physically move, by the MILLIONS
You have until the beginning of 2020 (the next census) to do this.
Get the fuck out of nazi bible bang homophobic racist sexist shitsville
Utterly abandon the perma red states, and move to a very select group of states, turn them Blue, permanently, and shore up the close ones (MI, WI, VA, that is why they are light blue)
If you live in the red states on this map, move to the Blue coloured ones, make them BLUE in reality (thats 173 EV's flipped from this election.
California is light pink because that is such a huge, perma blue state, that several million can move and help make the Blue coloured states blue in reality. Perhaps MA, MD, NY, IL, NJ could contribute some blue move outs too.
A group of people far richer and smarter than me can work out the math and help plan and execute the move.
Even if RW scum try to do this, they WILL be depopulating the shithole states they are leaving, thus costing those red states' EV's, and making it easier, perhaps for stay-behind Dems to take over.
Crazy??? HELL YES, but it's something to think about, some of those states would not take so much to put them in perma blue territory, and it would take a shitload of power away from the xian nazis.
America has always been about people moving into it. Well now is the time, perhaps, to play out those moves, en masse, from shit states to states that can truly become a permanent force for good.
