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mfcorey1

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Mon Jan 9, 2017, 04:59 AM Jan 2017

WTW? Obamacare repeal GOP looks at making employer health benefits into taxable income [View all]

When you dig into the details of GOP legislative plans in the Congress to repeal the Obama health law and replace that system with something different, it doesn’t take long to find items deep in the fine print that could certainly ignite some controversy over how best to deal with health insurance coverage in the future.


For example, if you get health care coverage through your job – that is the most common coverage for American workers – should those employer provided health benefits be taxed by Uncle Sam?

Currently, the money that a business spends to provide an individual employee with health benefits is not treated as income for that worker – so your benefits are not taxed – but some Republican plans would change that in the future.


The “Better Way” plan from House Speaker Paul Ryan argues for such a change, making the case that the tax exclusion for employer provided health benefits causes an economic reaction which forces up the cost of health insurance premiums (it’s on page 15 of that link).

A rather large amount of money is on the table on this issue; a recent report estimated that Uncle Sam is missing out on $266 billion in tax revenues in 2016, and would total $3.6 trillion over the next decade.

“This benefit is so massive that, in terms of federal support, it would be the third largest health expenditure, after Medicare and Medicaid,” the Speaker’s ‘Better Way’ plan states.

While the Speaker’s approach on health care reform has not made it into legislative language as yet, one GOP plan issued in the first week of the new Congress would end that tax exclusion for employer provided health care benefits.

The bill is from the the Republican Study Committee in the House; the group’s plan would take on the current system by settting up a standard deduction for health insurance (SDHI) of $7,500 for individuals, or $20,500 for a family.


The idea is simple – the deduction shields more of your income from taxes, lowering your net tax liability, and allowing you to have extra money to pay for health insurance coverage, either through a plan you buy directly, or health coverage through your job.

http://jamiedupree.blog.ajc.com/2017/01/08/obamacare-repeal-gop-looks-at-making-employer-health-benefits-into-taxable-income/

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Yup, they want to hurt ALL workers, even the ones with employer insurance. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #1
Against taxes my ass get the red out Jan 2017 #2
It looks like they are proposing a standard deduction for health insurance of $7500, so not as bad Hoyt Jan 2017 #3
For a good family plan, it probably runs over $15k a year. Ilsa Jan 2017 #6
Why is it ridiculous? First off, you'd get a standard deduction of $20,500 vs. the $15K you Hoyt Jan 2017 #12
I don't mind removing hc from employment, but ryan is Ilsa Jan 2017 #14
Actually, I think they are trying to help those who don't get Hinsurance through their employers and Hoyt Jan 2017 #15
Well, there's a lot to wait for and have analysis of, but Hortensis Jan 2017 #19
Yep SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2017 #21
The ACA was set to start taxing some plans next year Lee-Lee Jan 2017 #4
I wouldn't call our plan "cadillac" and it costs Ilsa Jan 2017 #8
Not accurate LynnTTT Jan 2017 #11
Show me the Con's taxes and we'll talk.......otherwise if he doesn't even have to KewlKat Jan 2017 #5
A Big Why? ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #7
I thought employers could count off on their taxes any employee benefits???? patricia92243 Jan 2017 #9
Yes, that expense is a huge deduction. Ilsa Jan 2017 #10
Employers will still be able to deduct payments for employees insurance as a business deduction. Autumn Jan 2017 #13
Which means, with a standard deductions only tax policy the working stiff will be stiffed again. haele Jan 2017 #16
Once again the lower and middle class pays for the wealthy. That's the GOP mantra Autumn Jan 2017 #18
I am self employed and there was a tax credit treestar Jan 2017 #17
Not the employer part, only the part they paid. haele Jan 2017 #20
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