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Raster

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105. We can fully acknowledge how far the GOP and the M$Media have stacked the deck...

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 05:38 PM

Jan 2017

...without intoning the sacred words of "Hilary Clinton."

She WAS our nominee, emphasis on the WAS. Time to move this forward.

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I am tired of hearing how Hillary blew it [View all] edhopper Jan 2017 OP

Okay Sherman A1 Jan 2017 #1

Exactly zipplewrath Jan 2017 #2

Agreed Sherman A1 Jan 2017 #8

That's how I see it metroins Jan 2017 #27

How exactly could she do that edhopper Jan 2017 #31

Ok. metroins Jan 2017 #33

No edhopper Jan 2017 #36

FBI, Russia, Voter Suppression WhiteTara Jan 2017 #43

Blameless zipplewrath Jan 2017 #89

Really, does the same hold true for Bernie? Walk away Jan 2017 #63

Yes zipplewrath Jan 2017 #88

Those debates alone edhopper Jan 2017 #5

she made her case, and it was a damn good one. trump made his, and his case sucked. unblock Jan 2017 #6

Not to mention edhopper Jan 2017 #9

and i still don't trust the actual counting of votes. unblock Jan 2017 #12

neither do I edhopper Jan 2017 #16

"deck heavily stacked against her"? KPN Jan 2017 #35

i'm all for fixing things, but ignoring the problems is not helping. unblock Jan 2017 #52

FDR would have lost? You know that how? KPN Jan 2017 #61

you seriously think fdr, or sanders, or jfk, would have gotten better treatment from the media? unblock Jan 2017 #65

I don't believe we lost because of the media. KPN Jan 2017 #68

then we'll lose every election going forward by a similar margin. unblock Jan 2017 #69

It is what it is. KPN Jan 2017 #75

quite dismissive of what was, by far, the single biggest factor in the election. unblock Jan 2017 #79

quite dismissive of voters KPN Jan 2017 #87

not in the least. unblock Jan 2017 #95

In washington state the media narrative was that Hillary was a foregone conclusion and trump a laugh AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #106

Ummm, when the media spent 100 minutes of its coverage of the election on emails LisaM Jan 2017 #81

+1 SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #21

+1000 Eom Arazi Jan 2017 #25

your last sentence is astounding treestar Jan 2017 #38

I supported the candidate but the argument Sherman A1 Jan 2017 #53

Politics is just not like that treestar Jan 2017 #71

I'm sorry, however Sherman A1 Jan 2017 #96

I didn't mean it personally treestar Jan 2017 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Jan 2017 #40

Thanks, most of us here are sick of this narative randr Jan 2017 #3

and what is interesting is most of those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for still_one Jan 2017 #10

I have run into a few of those edhopper Jan 2017 #18

and I know a few who are now concerned WhiteTara Jan 2017 #45

I voted for that corporatist Hillary. lostnfound Jan 2017 #80

I voted for Hillary in the primaries and WhiteTara Jan 2017 #83

deflection deflection deflection deflection ... KPN Jan 2017 #37

How about we fine those to refuse to let people vote, who restrict their SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #23

The days are counting down citood Jan 2017 #4

Yeah, the voters failed us. How anyone could vote for Trump even in protest just blows my mind. randome Jan 2017 #7

Now there's a solution ... KPN Jan 2017 #39

Ultimately that is when the chips fall randr Jan 2017 #54

And I am tired of various posters giving the Clinton campaign blanket absolution. Raster Jan 2017 #11

WHAT BIGGER FISH?!!? 18?!?! You're kidding right?!! Russia is going to do LESS hacking in 18?!?!? uponit7771 Jan 2017 #13

That is one of the bigger fish, among others. Russia WAS NOT THE ONLY REASON CLINTON LOST. Raster Jan 2017 #14

We agree, Comey and voter suppression were the other EMPIRICAL reasons she lost all other uponit7771 Jan 2017 #15

You have your opinions and are certainly entitled to them. Raster Jan 2017 #17

The hacking isn't opinion... that's "fake news" to call it such uponit7771 Jan 2017 #28

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #24

Exactly! KPN Jan 2017 #41

Not to mention online bullying if you don't toe the line. Raster Jan 2017 #51

this was the part that angered me the most. HughBeaumont Jan 2017 #66

So am I. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #19

It was our duty to elect her fescuerescue Jan 2017 #20

Not just history edhopper Jan 2017 #22

It finally dawned on me why so many Republicans hate Hillary world wide wally Jan 2017 #26

no, I never did edhopper Jan 2017 #29

What she did wrong when? During the campaign? KPN Jan 2017 #46

So,you couldn't come up with anything either? world wide wally Jan 2017 #48

Oh, her whole life? KPN Jan 2017 #57

And ultimately she was penalized for giving speeches to Wall St while Trump put them in charge world wide wally Jan 2017 #62

Didn't break any laws? That's hardly an argument when KPN Jan 2017 #67

I think it's because she was an older woman, seeking the presidency. Sparkly Jan 2017 #76

That doesn't fly .. JHan Jan 2017 #91

I'm sick of the Hillary trashing, here and elsewhere. Paladin Jan 2017 #30

Oh, so its useless, futile. Let's just give up. KPN Jan 2017 #47

I've been voting and participating in presidential elections since 1972. Paladin Jan 2017 #60

And I'd appreciate others backing off on KPN Jan 2017 #64

She didn't beat up on Trump... Blanks Jan 2017 #32

I agree, Democrats need to learn treestar Jan 2017 #34

Democrats do need to show up. But keep in mind that typical Democrats are KPN Jan 2017 #55

What's this WE bullshit? I didn't let her down. I didn't blow it. Iggo Jan 2017 #42

We edhopper Jan 2017 #100

Thing is there are any number of reasons why she lost, JHan Jan 2017 #44

Hillary ran an excellent campaign True_Blue Jan 2017 #49

It was more like 8-10 points or so, but your points are taken. StevieM Jan 2017 #93

Sorry, no onyxw Jan 2017 #99

This is not a popular narrative HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #103

That's okay. onyxw Jan 2017 #114

Outstanding post!!! Welcome to DU! Raster Jan 2017 #107

Thanks onyxw Jan 2017 #116

While your analysis may be unpopular with many posters here ... spin Jan 2017 #113

Nice analysis but zipplewrath Jan 2017 #115

Agree onyxw Jan 2017 #117

Polls are meaningless HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #102

Sec Clinton got 3 million more votes! TheDebbieDee Jan 2017 #50

It was her incompetent staff INdemo Jan 2017 #56

I will agree DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #59

Thank you blue cat Jan 2017 #58

Thank you!! Sparkly Jan 2017 #70

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #72

Yes, thank you edhopper. Paladin Jan 2017 #73

Agreed! WestCoastDem42 Jan 2017 #74

Me too Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #77

As a Bernie supporter, I completely agree. lostnfound Jan 2017 #78

Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. We MUST second guess. We MUST learn from this. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #104

We should remember the election of 2000 INdemo Jan 2017 #110

We walked into a 15 year old pit trap. kenfrequed Jan 2017 #82

Hillary's downfall was trusting the wrong people Lee-Lee Jan 2017 #84

This is actually more damning than posts blaming her karynnj Jan 2017 #97

Bear in mind, criticism of Clinton's campaign is simply analysis and game-planning the next election LanternWaste Jan 2017 #85

3 takeaways HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #86

I don't think polling is meaningless.... Raster Jan 2017 #109

So my flip flops on trade let.her down? Motown_Johnny Jan 2017 #90

Pissy bullshit from Bernie-bots. Aristus Jan 2017 #92

Why don't we quit talking about Hillary period? Ligyron Jan 2017 #94

If we don't acknowledge edhopper Jan 2017 #101

We can fully acknowledge how far the GOP and the M$Media have stacked the deck... Raster Jan 2017 #105

You can edhopper Jan 2017 #108

I IN NO WAY ARE MAKING SECRETARY CLINTON A PARIAH... Raster Jan 2017 #111

Who here doesn't acknowledge how far the GOP and Media have stacked the deck? Ligyron Jan 2017 #112