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calimary

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8. AMEN, Hekate!

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 04:37 AM

Jan 2017

Besides, the Guardian has been a tremendously reliable information source. They were almost the only major news outlet that got everything right on the Iraq War and bush/cheney. ALL the big guys on this side of the Atlantic fucked it up. HORRENDOUS, recklessly irresponsible, lazy, and disgustingly negligent "coverage" (and I use that word rather loosely) was the steady diet of processed, manipulated bullshit we were fed. They literally held NO ONE accountable and let bush/cheney get away with EVERYTHING.

Just for a fun exercise - imagine how carnivorous and unrelenting they'd have been if a Democrat had pulled that shit that bush/cheney did. Or better yet - if Hillary had done it! MAN they would have burned her at the stake at high noon in the middle of the Washington Mall, and then gathered up whatever was left, deposited it in the middle of Times Square and burned it all over again.

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The Guardian: source for 35 page "dossier" is "consistently reliable, meticulous, [View all] pnwmom Jan 2017 OP

So it's real BainsBane Jan 2017 #1

How much did Dense know? roamer65 Jan 2017 #2

We haven't seen anything BainsBane Jan 2017 #3

Pence doesn't know anything. he is waiting/hoping Trump will be removed so he can become President JI7 Jan 2017 #7

Pence coddles the foreign actors. At least Paul Ryan pretended to object to them at the last minute. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #9

my point is he doesn't know more than what those with the highest access JI7 Jan 2017 #10

I agree Dorian Gray Jan 2017 #15

While I think Pence is probably more radical than Trump NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #25

I agree. izzybella Jan 2017 #27

He is not chaotic like Trump. He is "evil" but not chaotic. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #19

With all his conservative religion its a wonder milestogo Jan 2017 #52

Yes, they do. okasha Jan 2017 #49

Keep an eye on the Indiana documents transparency case. politicat Jan 2017 #62

Thank you. I will. okasha Jan 2017 #63

I don't see how Pence triron Jan 2017 #57

Kick. And how many countries are they targeting now? bettyellen Jan 2017 #4

From news I've seen: France, Germany, and today Sweden popped up. Holland also has a RWer politician Hekate Jan 2017 #6

AMEN, Hekate! calimary Jan 2017 #8

I learned to appreciate The Guardian when they were almost the only British pnwmom Jan 2017 #13

I really like the Guardian. milestogo Jan 2017 #53

And as Andrea Mitchell vomited DK504 Jan 2017 #29

Seeing her last few appearances, last night and this morning since that news broke, calimary Jan 2017 #35

And GB w Brexit! Totally right he knows white nationalist are ripe for exploitation bettyellen Jan 2017 #28

Hmmmm grantcart Jan 2017 #5

K & R Scurrilous Jan 2017 #11

You know what makes the whole peeing story sound to me like slam-dunk truth? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #12

I totally agree; it so sounds like babylonsister Jan 2017 #14

absolutely Dorian Gray Jan 2017 #16

Yep, and the timeline fits. politicat Jan 2017 #32

Yep. n/t Lucinda Jan 2017 #36

Seems entirely logical, if you just note his consistent past behavior. calimary Jan 2017 #37

K&R brer cat Jan 2017 #17

Note- McCain is NOT the person who originally ordered/paid for the Oppo-Research. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #18

I just read that it was originally done for Jeb. nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #21

Yup, I have to give credit to the DU'er who guessed JEB! KittyWampus Jan 2017 #22

"consistently reliable, meticulous" ...Then that person did not write this document Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #20

Except now there is an Eastern European source being mentioned KittyWampus Jan 2017 #23

I would definitely believe that it could be the work of an Eastern European, but why would Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #24

He didn't say he'd never been in the Czech Republic. Maybe he went to a city pnwmom Jan 2017 #30

Which I understand can be done quite easily if you come in from a different country Lucinda Jan 2017 #38

The implication of posting the picture of the passport was that he doesn't have Calista241 Jan 2017 #47

No VISA is required for a US citizen to travel to the Czech republic pnwmom Jan 2017 #50

I just got back from Belgium, another EU country, and i got both an entry stamp and an exit stamp. Calista241 Jan 2017 #58

I've talked to people with the opposite recent experience, which is why pnwmom Jan 2017 #59

I see where a head of an Eastern European intelligence agency said that the Russians had Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #26

I wonder why the Guardian didn't point this out. nt pnwmom Jan 2017 #31

"The Guardian has not been able to confirm the veracity of the documents contents" Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #33

Why do you think the Guardian didn't report pnwmom Jan 2017 #39

He's been identified now as a certain retired British agent who is in fear for his life. pnwmom Jan 2017 #45

I do not know, I am definitely taking a wait and see approach on the whole thing Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #46

I couldn't care less about the sex stuff. But the same "dossier" pnwmom Jan 2017 #60

I hope they go after it hard. Trump is a fucking traitorous Russian puppet. Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #61

I note that the BBC, among others, okasha Jan 2017 #55

Nope! Generator Jan 2017 #41

Christopher Steele maybe did work up a dossier, but I am sceptical he wrote that exact Buzzfeed Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #42

Interesting thanks for answering Generator Jan 2017 #43

I do hope Trump goes down in a giant fireball that takes much of the huge Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #44

He didn't want to be identified as British, because that fact alone pnwmom Jan 2017 #51

Traitor to America Generator Jan 2017 #34

Everything Trump is not. n/t Orsino Jan 2017 #40

These things take time Dem2 Jan 2017 #48

Hand-picked from Jerry Falwell, Jr.'s personal collection VOX Jan 2017 #54

this will deflate, as everything does, because our press is not OURS. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #56