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34. That's where this is leading. Putin has more to compromise Trump with than intelligence is yet

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 10:53 AM

Jan 2017

Revealing. Count on it. Exit polls... There is NOTHING Putin wouldn't have done to accomplish this (nor Trump). And they DO have the means. Our election system is a joke - and our democracy will cease to exist altogether if this isn't addressed (the GOP will not willingly address - this have to be shamed into it by an active movement by the public DEMANDING this be remedied!)

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***AND*** our voting machines were HACKED [View all] LaydeeBug Jan 2017 OP

Piss on all of them. we can do it Jan 2017 #1

Trump himself brought "it" up after being told about the Russian's hacking the election Botany Jan 2017 #2

That statement sure doesn't sound like something he'd be able to compose superpatriotman Jan 2017 #3

I join you in your outrage cyclonefence Jan 2017 #4

Yep. They can be hacked remotely AND LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #8

The servers the vote tally programs are running on Rene Jan 2017 #153

Trump: I will accept election results ... if I win Raster Jan 2017 #5

ABC News: Russian Hackers Targeted Nearly Half of States' Voter Registration Systems... JaneQPublic Jan 2017 #6

+++++++++++ WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?+++++++++ This is the same thing I said uponit7771 Jan 2017 #20

Yep, if they can hack registration databases, then THEY decide who votes! (NT) JaneQPublic Jan 2017 #90

Precisely, and if the authorities claim it to be impossible then Ligyron Jan 2017 #57

Trump liberal from boston Jan 2017 #117

HACKED MOTHERFUCKER. FUCK THESE FUCKING LIARS. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #7

The machines were NOT hacked. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #9

Um...YES. They were. And it doesn't ONLY have to be remotely. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #10

+1, and were best to place them but in rural areas uponit7771 Jan 2017 #18

Global Research is a conspiracy theory site. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #22

Thank you! Amishman Jan 2017 #52

+1 SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #103

Absolute rubbish! longship Jan 2017 #51

No, it's not LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #53

Yes, it is. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #54

Again, no it's not LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #58

Seriously, quit lying. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #61

seriously, I'm not lying...maybe breathe deeply or something? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #63

I read every bit of bullshit you posted. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #64

project much? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #66

ALCOA! Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #70

nice pic of you LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #71

I know. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #75

You don't. Really LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #80

I did, actually. Posted a link previously. But here's some more that you won't read Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #85

Read your articles. and they didn't prove a thing LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #91

Yup, I was right. Your confirmation bias is QUITE debilitating. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #96

Me too. Your information bias is absolutely astounding. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #98

But there were bipartisan observers at every precinct. longship Jan 2017 #77

So? We aren't talking about many votes...when I asked the guy scanning how I would LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #82

It is all observed!!!!! longship Jan 2017 #87

Not every second is observed!!! LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #92

There are observers in almost all precincts. longship Jan 2017 #97

Rubbish! Absolute rubbish! LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #99

You've got no fucking evidence! longship Jan 2017 #100

You've got no fucking evidence either LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #101

For Christ sakes, one cannot prove a negative!!!!! longship Jan 2017 #104

That one has a problem dumbcat Jan 2017 #111

Sadly, yes. longship Jan 2017 #114

Oh there's a problem allright LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #120

Looks like fake news is not only allowed, but welcome here. cwydro Jan 2017 #157

I'm not OK with it. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #160

I'm with you on that one. cwydro Jan 2017 #163

I certainly think it is too... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #170

see post #136 LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #169

I know, right? These people want to relate that the Russians hacked the voter files LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #167

In my rural Wisconsin precint forthemiddle Jan 2017 #108

and in my suburban Baltimore one, it wasn't. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #121

This is exactly why paper ballots are the devil HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #154

Longship you live in a fantasy world where there are no experts on voting machines you haven't met. Ford_Prefect Jan 2017 #88

Rubbish! Utter rubbish! longship Jan 2017 #93

So you insist that it could not happen nor have any influence over the count anywhere? Ford_Prefect Jan 2017 #107

I made no such claim. longship Jan 2017 #112

Agree. Voting machines can easily be hacked into. The machines that we have in our area don't kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2017 #140

Do you mind if I ask what state you are in? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #142

Internet connectivity not necessarily needed. GregD Jan 2017 #128

then 75K votes were never counted from Detroit and Flint which were probably all Hillary votes. putitinD Jan 2017 #151

That's not hacking. longship Jan 2017 #156

Your entire topic is bullshit jeanmarc Jan 2017 #94

What? moda253 Jan 2017 #13

The machines don't have ports on the outside. All the ports are internal. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #24

State and local electoral board systems were hacked... Per the report uponit7771 Jan 2017 #17

Yes, and I said that. But those are NOT voting machines. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #21

Electoral is worse..They can purge votes ... The voter machines is distraction when there are better uponit7771 Jan 2017 #23

The voting machines weren't hacked. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #25

We have no proof they weren't and there should objectively be no benefit of ... uponit7771 Jan 2017 #27

We have no proof they were. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #40

The Russian infilatration is certainly proof LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #55

Making claims with no proof diminishes you. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #56

making claims with no proof diminshes YOU LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #60

Wait, now I'm mansplaining? Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #62

My fucking malfunction is that the voting machines were hacked LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #65

Bull. Fucking. Shit. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #67

Bull. Fucking. Shit. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #69

Your precious post #6 states that state election boards were hacked, which I've already acknowledge. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #73

and yet, still... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #83

Not voting machines, though. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #86

I *get* that you're saying that, but you have no fucking proof LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #122

Try living in Florida and have 100% certainty that people are not screwing around with machines, etc kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2017 #143

LOL, this has to be an act...right? tritsofme Jan 2017 #139

Perhaps you should understand that is where they program the ballots Glitterati Jan 2017 #28

EI my reply that the machines got hacked at a macro level uponit7771 Jan 2017 #31

See Ohio MFM008 Jan 2017 #33

The ODP Chair disagrees with you. brooklynite Jan 2017 #50

"democratic leaders" are clueless and toothless. that's why we keep doing this again and again. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #146

Democratic Leaders (whom I know personally) vs anonymous bloggers...how to choose brooklynite Jan 2017 #164

Hold up! Now if you *KNOW THEM PERSONALLY* but are an anonymous blogger here LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #168

My real name is in my profile... brooklynite Jan 2017 #171

And, again...so? Even if you were a celebrity, again...so? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #177

My point is that I know people who's job is to know politics... brooklynite Jan 2017 #179

I know people too...that is still a fallacy LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #181

Doesn't have to be voting machines. Just purge several thousand Democratic registrations. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #35

I acknowledged that in the state hacks. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #36

Yup! And MI has statewide paper mark sense ballots. longship Jan 2017 #43

Indeed. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #46

was there a statewide hand/eye recount of this paper? oh yeah, NO. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #147

The specific ballot format and details have to be installed on each machine Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #102

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #106

Prove the chain of custody of the Eproms was inviolate.The govt already disclosed vendor was hacked. Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #115

You're the one making the claims, you need to provide the proof. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #116

My argument is that the machines are wide open to tampering, and that is a FACT Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #118

You, like the OP have proved NOTHING aside from you both particpate Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #119

Nope, your confirmation bias precludes you from seeing the facts LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #125

What fucking facts? Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #131

So *astounding* this bias of yours. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #133

You're right, I'll stop feeding you. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #136

I am not under a bridge, not am I hungry for your tripe LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #138

you (and everybody else) can't prove they WEREN'T hacked. that you don't think is a problem is scary TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #148

And you (or the OP) can't prove they WERE. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #159

Thank you for this. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #126

This is 100,000,000,000 times worse than the hanging fucking chads. Initech Jan 2017 #127

How are you so certain they were not hacked? GregD Jan 2017 #129

How are you so sure they were? Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #130

you are spending an awful lot of energy defending your position GregD Jan 2017 #182

This is the best example of a Conspiracy Theory. Matt_R Jan 2017 #183

Your cogent point flies in the face of his notion LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #189

How do you know there was no hacking? It's impossible to know that. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2017 #132

To say that there was (like the OP) with no evidence is even more ridiculous. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #134

Agreed. A bank/computer expert I know agreed that hacks are either impossible lindysalsagal Jan 2017 #188

Not only hacked... Dreamer3 Jan 2017 #11

One thousand seats? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #12

Yes, 1,000 republican seats nationwide. Dreamer3 Jan 2017 #19

Yeap.... There's no turnover like that unless something's really fucked up uponit7771 Jan 2017 #16

i knew that when we went down. mopinko Jan 2017 #14

Yes!!! The report says they gained access to state and local level machines!!!! uponit7771 Jan 2017 #15

any evidence to support your claim that the voting machines were hacked? bowens43 Jan 2017 #26

More evidence than tRump had for claiming marybourg Jan 2017 #32

Possibly not voting machines. Registrations could have been purged. And then there're the tabulators KittyWampus Jan 2017 #39

None. Just baseless conjecture. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #41

Do you mean other than the fact that voting machines are not connected to the INet? longship Jan 2017 #47

They hacked the voters Dem2 Jan 2017 #29

Yep. Trump's approval is currently 37% and dropping; he lost by ecstatic Jan 2017 #30

That's where this is leading. Putin has more to compromise Trump with than intelligence is yet ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #34

They thought they had gotten away with it in 2012. MoonRiver Jan 2017 #37

You have exactly no evidence to support your claim mythology Jan 2017 #38

Except if a large enough number of people were prevented from voting by being purged beforehand. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #42

The election was Russian rigged. Lint Head Jan 2017 #44

We need a system where you can see KGBot001 Jan 2017 #45

I don't know WTF happened on election day, but I know that SOMETHING did. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #48

my first thought on Nov. 9 early am, too wordpix Jan 2017 #161

Prove it brooklynite Jan 2017 #49

PROVE THEY WEREN'T. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #68

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence brooklynite Jan 2017 #74

which is why you should get on it LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #78

Sorry, but I have to first "prove" god doesn't exist. brooklynite Jan 2017 #89

sigh... Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #76

***YAWN*** LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #79

sigh. you're ok with invisible votes; some of us aren't. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #149

PROVE IT. Nt Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #158

Good grief. Ace Rothstein Jan 2017 #81

Good grief indeed. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #84

Neither side can prove it was or wasn't hacked or there was some cheating somewhere along the kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2017 #144

The burden of proof is always on the person making the claim. linuxman Jan 2017 #174

Back up your claim with proof or stop pretending. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #176

So no then. linuxman Jan 2017 #180

Way too much shit has happened that makes no sense libtodeath Jan 2017 #59

just my hypothetical 2 cents' worth anarch Jan 2017 #72

Were the exit polls hacked too? They sure seemed that they were pretty nuts on. jmg257 Jan 2017 #95

Good point triron Jan 2017 #105

My questions with all this concerns "unadjusted exit polls" jmg257 Jan 2017 #109

Wanting something to be true doesn't make it so. Throd 2.0 Jan 2017 #110

I still think that is why DU went down qanda Jan 2017 #113

We Need To Stop With The Conspiracy Stories ConnorMarc Jan 2017 #123

The OP does not respond to reason. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #137

You promised to go away... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #141

Agree! ananda Jan 2017 #124

Very controlled.... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #135

we need all paper ballots, all hand-counted, all the time. it's not that hard. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #145

Amen. nt MaeScott Jan 2017 #150

I think the ptb madokie Jan 2017 #152

Not helpful! loyalsister Jan 2017 #155

It's *NOT* helpful, and yet, it is still true. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #165

More productive if it supresses voter turnout? loyalsister Jan 2017 #172

more productive than your suggestion, which is pretend NOTHING happened LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #173

What you see as "pretending nothing happened" loyalsister Jan 2017 #175

Lindsay Graham says that Trump's confirming Russia hacked is a positive dev't wordpix Jan 2017 #162

He did? When? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #166

There is no evidence that the voting machines were hacked. Else You Are Mad Jan 2017 #178

No..it wouldn't mean that... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #185

Have you worked in espionage as well? Else You Are Mad Jan 2017 #186

Sure it would. *Impossible*. It *never* happened. It never *could* happen. O-kay LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #187

Nothing less than a full embargo against Russia is acceptable at this point. Initech Jan 2017 #184

absolute kick, because you called this... nt LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #190