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longship

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19. The Times qualified it, as they should.

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:59 PM

Jan 2017

Treason is specifically defined in law within the US Constitution. The reason it was put there is to prevent a charge of treason being used as a political weapon.

Those who casually fling "treason" around here apparently do not understand why it was specifically defined in our most cherished body of law in the first place.

I do not know if what Drumpf has done rises to that level. That's up to the judiciary to decide, if that question ever comes up.

The NYT correctly characterizes this as "potentionally treasonous". I am sure that their lawyers are acutely aware of the legal status of those words.

Here is Article III, Section 3 of the US Constitution:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

Let that guide us with regards to this issue.

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