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Grey Lemercier

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42. Christopher Steele maybe did work up a dossier, but I am sceptical he wrote that exact Buzzfeed
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 04:34 PM
Jan 2017

document. If he did, his product is shoddy in its very presentation and basic fact-checking. I mean, come on, mislabeling Alfa Bank as Alpha Group? Mischaracterising Barvikha? As a fellow Brit calling the WC a soccer tournament? Let alone the horrid grammar, punctuation and misuse of words?

I think this whole thing partially reeks of a trap, wherein you tie legit, damaging info to either potentially demonstrably false allegations (ie. the "Cohen in Prague" charge, which can be easily disproven, we shall see if it is) or sensationalist charges (golden shower hookers) in order to inoculate Trump and the rest of the ratfuckers from actually illegal and/or treasonous actions. It also can serve to reinforce the fear of going after Trump that he surely wishes to project onto us, the left, and onto the press.

I am a very rational, detail-oriented person. Perhaps it is a weakness of mine (and many of us on the left in general) that we are so demanding of facts and systemic verification of charges. I wish I could just take part in passing on pro Democratic Party fake news (especially if key parts of this are shown indeed to be false) like the RW scum do, but I am just not, by nature, capable of this.

here is a much more in detail post from another member about this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8458457


Btw, false flag as a term for a ruse de guerre has existed for centuries before that insane piece of shite Alex Jones waddled onto the scene.

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So it's real BainsBane Jan 2017 #1
How much did Dense know? roamer65 Jan 2017 #2
We haven't seen anything BainsBane Jan 2017 #3
Pence doesn't know anything. he is waiting/hoping Trump will be removed so he can become President JI7 Jan 2017 #7
Pence coddles the foreign actors. At least Paul Ryan pretended to object to them at the last minute. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #9
my point is he doesn't know more than what those with the highest access JI7 Jan 2017 #10
I agree Dorian Gray Jan 2017 #15
While I think Pence is probably more radical than Trump NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #25
I agree. izzybella Jan 2017 #27
He is not chaotic like Trump. He is "evil" but not chaotic. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #19
With all his conservative religion its a wonder milestogo Jan 2017 #52
Yes, they do. okasha Jan 2017 #49
Keep an eye on the Indiana documents transparency case. politicat Jan 2017 #62
Thank you. I will. okasha Jan 2017 #63
I don't see how Pence triron Jan 2017 #57
Kick. And how many countries are they targeting now? bettyellen Jan 2017 #4
From news I've seen: France, Germany, and today Sweden popped up. Holland also has a RWer politician Hekate Jan 2017 #6
AMEN, Hekate! calimary Jan 2017 #8
I learned to appreciate The Guardian when they were almost the only British pnwmom Jan 2017 #13
I really like the Guardian. milestogo Jan 2017 #53
And as Andrea Mitchell vomited DK504 Jan 2017 #29
Seeing her last few appearances, last night and this morning since that news broke, calimary Jan 2017 #35
And GB w Brexit! Totally right he knows white nationalist are ripe for exploitation bettyellen Jan 2017 #28
Hmmmm grantcart Jan 2017 #5
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2017 #11
You know what makes the whole peeing story sound to me like slam-dunk truth? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #12
I totally agree; it so sounds like babylonsister Jan 2017 #14
absolutely Dorian Gray Jan 2017 #16
Yep, and the timeline fits. politicat Jan 2017 #32
Yep. n/t Lucinda Jan 2017 #36
Seems entirely logical, if you just note his consistent past behavior. calimary Jan 2017 #37
K&R brer cat Jan 2017 #17
Note- McCain is NOT the person who originally ordered/paid for the Oppo-Research. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #18
I just read that it was originally done for Jeb. nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #21
Yup, I have to give credit to the DU'er who guessed JEB! KittyWampus Jan 2017 #22
"consistently reliable, meticulous" ...Then that person did not write this document Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #20
Except now there is an Eastern European source being mentioned KittyWampus Jan 2017 #23
I would definitely believe that it could be the work of an Eastern European, but why would Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #24
He didn't say he'd never been in the Czech Republic. Maybe he went to a city pnwmom Jan 2017 #30
Which I understand can be done quite easily if you come in from a different country Lucinda Jan 2017 #38
The implication of posting the picture of the passport was that he doesn't have Calista241 Jan 2017 #47
No VISA is required for a US citizen to travel to the Czech republic pnwmom Jan 2017 #50
I just got back from Belgium, another EU country, and i got both an entry stamp and an exit stamp. Calista241 Jan 2017 #58
I've talked to people with the opposite recent experience, which is why pnwmom Jan 2017 #59
I see where a head of an Eastern European intelligence agency said that the Russians had Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #26
I wonder why the Guardian didn't point this out. nt pnwmom Jan 2017 #31
"The Guardian has not been able to confirm the veracity of the documents contents" Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #33
Why do you think the Guardian didn't report pnwmom Jan 2017 #39
He's been identified now as a certain retired British agent who is in fear for his life. pnwmom Jan 2017 #45
I do not know, I am definitely taking a wait and see approach on the whole thing Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #46
I couldn't care less about the sex stuff. But the same "dossier" pnwmom Jan 2017 #60
I hope they go after it hard. Trump is a fucking traitorous Russian puppet. Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #61
I note that the BBC, among others, okasha Jan 2017 #55
Nope! Generator Jan 2017 #41
Christopher Steele maybe did work up a dossier, but I am sceptical he wrote that exact Buzzfeed Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #42
Interesting thanks for answering Generator Jan 2017 #43
I do hope Trump goes down in a giant fireball that takes much of the huge Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #44
He didn't want to be identified as British, because that fact alone pnwmom Jan 2017 #51
Traitor to America Generator Jan 2017 #34
Everything Trump is not. n/t Orsino Jan 2017 #40
These things take time Dem2 Jan 2017 #48
Hand-picked from Jerry Falwell, Jr.'s personal collection VOX Jan 2017 #54
this will deflate, as everything does, because our press is not OURS. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #56
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