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arithia

(455 posts)
32. Psuedoscience Kills
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:32 AM
Jan 2017

1) No one actually knows what causes Guillain Barre. Well, short of Zika. It's been confirmed that one will cause it. It usually appears days or weeks after a respiratory or digestive tract infection, which can be viral or bacterial.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/basics/causes/con-20025832
https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Education/Fact-Sheets/Guillain-Barr%C3%A9-Syndrome-Fact-Sheet

It isn't the vaccine additives itself causing it if GB is caused by the infection- it's the VIRUS. Viruses routinely re-write our DNA, in fact, 8% of human DNA is viral dna that inserted itself into our code. It's *suspected* that the virus or infection rewrites the code enough that the immune system doesn't recognize your own cells. As you can get GB multiple ways other than vaccines and one gender (and ethnicity) is more affected than the other, this hints again at an underlying genetic susceptibility.

2) Your comment on European vaccinations is dead wrong. http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=20183

"In total 15 countries do not have any mandatory vaccinations; the remaining 14 have at least one mandatory vaccination included in their programme. Vaccination against polio is mandatory for both children and adults in 12 countries; diphtheria and tetanus vaccination in 11 countries and hepatitis B vaccination in 10 countries. For eight of the 15 vaccines considered, some countries have a mixed strategy of recommended and mandatory vaccinations. Mandatory vaccination may be considered as a way of improving compliance to vaccination programmes. However, compliance with many programmes in Europe is high, using only recommendations"

Most people are not afraid to travel to Europe because they are protected by Herd Immunity, which I mentioned earlier. Compliance is high. The herd is protected. In place where there isn't enough participation for herd immunity, breakouts of serious, life threatening diseases occur. We've seen it here in the US

3) "I don't see why you don't think this number can be improved" Don't put words in my mouth. It's not nice. Nor is it smart. You've done it several times now and I'm not obligated to stay polite if you keep that crap up.

I'm all for improving vaccines. That means recognizing REAL science and building upon a foundation of testing, observation and now, genetic/epigenetic analysis. Kneeejerk reactions to scary sounding things that are found naturally in the body doesn't help anyone, let alone medical science.

What you are peddling is killing people.

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Would you work with Hitler or Mussolini on your pet project? Generator Jan 2017 #1
Wrong - mercury in vaccines does still exist - more than half of flu vaccines have mercury womanofthehills Jan 2017 #2
Fine but you think working with Trump is okay-oh flu vaccines are your most important issue??? Generator Jan 2017 #3
It was not decided Bobby is working with Trump womanofthehills Jan 2017 #5
Where are you getting this crud from arithia Jan 2017 #7
Wrong - go on the CDC website and flu vaccines are recommended for babies at 6 months womanofthehills Jan 2017 #10
*facepalm* arithia Jan 2017 #14
Have I said anything about not getting vaccines - No - we are talking about improving vaccines womanofthehills Jan 2017 #21
lol.. uh.. arithia Jan 2017 #24
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #25
If you do a search "vaccine injury lawyers for Guillian Barre Syndrome" womanofthehills Jan 2017 #30
kangaroo court findings are not scientific, medical proof of anything arithia Jan 2017 #35
It's not kangaroo court - it's the US Court of Federal Claims womanofthehills Jan 2017 #50
Again- arithia Jan 2017 #56
Actually, my information is from the CDC womanofthehills Jan 2017 #27
100% wrong -- stop your dangerous anti health agprop obamanut2012 Jan 2017 #48
Also, to answer your other question - yes if it prevented babies from getting ill womanofthehills Jan 2017 #4
This table would be a lot more meaningful if anyone knew where it came from gratuitous Jan 2017 #13
It's from Health Impact News... SidDithers Jan 2017 #16
Not true. They recommend that pregnant women and children get the flu vaccine pnwmom Jan 2017 #22
Your concerns are a bit out of date medically. arithia Jan 2017 #6
Your information is incomplete. They recommend that pregnant women pnwmom Jan 2017 #23
*sigh* arithia Jan 2017 #29
Everyone does not excrete substances from the body at the same rate womanofthehills Jan 2017 #33
False equivalency arithia Jan 2017 #39
Ethylmercury was removed from the other vaccines in 2001. If it had been proven harmless, pnwmom Jan 2017 #34
We routinely update medications to remove additives arithia Jan 2017 #37
Right, it doesn't pose the SAME danger as methyl mercury. That doesn't mean it belongs in pnwmom Jan 2017 #40
Same danger? It doesn't POSE a danger. arithia Jan 2017 #42
I'm not comfortable with the in vitro studies; you are. pnwmom Jan 2017 #43
One study is not scientific proof arithia Jan 2017 #44
This isn't ONE study. It's a review of multiple studies. pnwmom Jan 2017 #45
*sigh* arithia Jan 2017 #57
I didn't say anything about the pertussis vaccine -- only the flu vaccine. pnwmom Jan 2017 #58
apologies, could have sworn you did arithia Jan 2017 #59
Are you seriously going to say that with no safe standard established for babies, pnwmom Jan 2017 #60
*facepalm* arithia Jan 2017 #61
You're fine with a default position that it's safe, since the research that pnwmom Jan 2017 #63
ffs.... arithia Jan 2017 #64
You say: pnwmom Jan 2017 #65
Here is the list from CDC of vaccines available for this season and the ages for each vaccine womanofthehills Jan 2017 #31
Anti-vaxxers at DU should be treated the same as chemtrailers... SidDithers Jan 2017 #8
JFK is a good environmental lawyer and environmentalist womanofthehills Jan 2017 #11
Unlike thousands of doctors and scientists, Kennedy is a lawyer who does NOT have a still_one Jan 2017 #9
Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children With Autism womanofthehills Jan 2017 #12
Anti-vax psuedoscience gets people with repressed immune systems killed arithia Jan 2017 #17
Not quite the full story. First of all no one ever claimed that vaccines are completely still_one Jan 2017 #19
National Vaccine Injury and Compensation Program - web page with stats womanofthehills Jan 2017 #15
We aren't against improving vaccines. We are against bullsh*t. arithia Jan 2017 #18
best rebuttal yet still_one Jan 2017 #20
Actually- Guillain Barre syndrome seems to be one of the main serious side effects- 2 people per mil womanofthehills Jan 2017 #26
Psuedoscience Kills arithia Jan 2017 #32
CDC does list GBS as a rare side effect of vaccines womanofthehills Jan 2017 #36
Small possible association is not proof arithia Jan 2017 #38
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