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dkf

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161. I still remember the DU post about giving incapacitated women birth control so they can't get
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 09:23 AM
Jun 2012

Pregnant when raped.

I don't think we've learned a thing, unless it's how to not let the evidence of abuse become too obvious.

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"people are destitute and others are well-off because of personal choices" is RW mentality. DCBob Jun 2012 #1
Yes, it says in the Bible dotymed Jun 2012 #44
it also says that the rain falls on the just and unjust- Bluerthanblue Jun 2012 #47
I'm reminded of a statement from the German philosopher and polymath coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #67
thanks- Bluerthanblue Jun 2012 #82
It also says in the Bible that we are to take care of the poor, homeless, Zoeisright Jun 2012 #90
There was a best-selling book a few years ago called "The Secret" that espoused the TheDebbieDee Jun 2012 #99
You are so right about that, and it's something people are almost conditioned to ignore. Raksha Jun 2012 #139
I am sorry that dotymed Jun 2012 #160
"People are destitute and others are well-off because of God's will" is also coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #62
And many of them, if not most of them, use the "god's will" argument to justify Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #71
Not to re-fight the 30 Years' War, but the difference between Protestant and Roman Catholic coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #77
Been Saying That For Years liberalmike27 Jun 2012 #68
Sometimes I believe we barely have any free will choices in life at all. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #2
I think the truth of the matter./... sendero Jun 2012 #3
I don't quite agree that it somewhere in the middle mazzarro Jun 2012 #15
Even the ability to focus and "work hard" pscot Jun 2012 #23
Good point. Turbineguy Jun 2012 #31
not to mention that the table of "choices" itself is laid by larger forces. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #115
Life is a lot like... meaculpa2011 Jun 2012 #26
And, most often dotymed Jun 2012 #55
I would.. sendero Jun 2012 #56
free will Brainstormy Jun 2012 #19
Well put. I hope you get a chance to read the wonderful novel by Tom Wolfe "A Man coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #69
I Think You're Right liberalmike27 Jun 2012 #83
It reminds me of "shunning" Cerridwen Jun 2012 #4
Yes. I always stop and give the homeless money, even when they are obviously drunks. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #21
I used to keep a handful of change pscot Jun 2012 #27
Exactly! And thank you for doing that. :) LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #28
I'm the same way, whatever the reason they are down and out, the fact is that smirkymonkey Jun 2012 #30
"just down on their luck"... BrendaBrick Jun 2012 #100
"My first instinct is to feel compassion" Cerridwen Jun 2012 #37
You may be liberal, dotymed Jun 2012 #58
:) Thank you n/t LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #92
My sister fed the homeless man on the city grate each morning on her way to work. CarmanK Jun 2012 #156
Homelessness is our answer to mental healthcare. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #5
We created some very bad institutions when we did try to take care of them. dkf Jun 2012 #7
We used to deliver babies with hands that had been in a cadaver and not washed. Mothers died. jtuck004 Jun 2012 #153
I still remember the DU post about giving incapacitated women birth control so they can't get dkf Jun 2012 #161
Evil is never going away, but that's no reason to throw the hands up in the air. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #162
+1000 and the prisons n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #16
Right. Here's the Disconnect: Iggy Jun 2012 #6
When is the last time you invited a homeless person to share your abode? dkf Jun 2012 #8
Yesterday. sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #10
That's dangerous. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #13
Not really. sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #17
So the person made a choice to be homeless? dkf Jun 2012 #25
People in the grip of severe mental illness and/or addictions almost always make bad choices, due to LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #43
No sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #75
Some people have a regular, safe & comfortable place to sleep outside free from harassment... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #102
I can support the thought it is dangerous to take home a homeless person. airplaneman Jun 2012 #143
That is pretty brave of you. dkf Jun 2012 #22
Homeless JonLP24 Jun 2012 #40
If and only if the family is supportive. nt raccoon Jun 2012 #50
Agreed. sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #76
It's not just that they're homeless. I wouldn't invite ANY stranger into my home. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #148
DKF, I'm curious, which of the traditionally Democratic positions do you embrace? r/o LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #29
Ditto. Inquiring minds would like to know. Thank you for putting into words coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #73
You refer to "traditionally Democratic positions" and raise a good point especially with any AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #107
You have a point there. I guess it's the Dream act etc. I'm thinking of. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #110
none is the answer. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #117
That's what I thought. Then why is a right-winger even here? LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #119
polite. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #120
I don't understand what you mean. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #122
the poster is polite; doesn't attack other posters or get into flame wars. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #124
Oh, okay! So it's not against the rules to do the right-wing thing if done politely, thanks! :) LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #133
Another side can sometimes make people deal with things their friends won't. That doesn't mean jtuck004 Jun 2012 #154
Good luck with that one. Rex Jun 2012 #164
Difference: Iggy Jun 2012 #134
Never going to happen. Rex Jun 2012 #166
HA! Rex Jun 2012 #165
Or maybe it's because we expect someone else to take care of them. dkf Jun 2012 #9
That's right. sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #11
Most liberals that I know of, don't have a problem with that at all. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #32
You just showed how you think OTHER people should take care of them joeglow3 Jun 2012 #36
I don't agree. We as individuals are not trained to take care of mentally ill or LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #39
That is a great point JonLP24 Jun 2012 #49
When I was a kid sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #132
I'd be happy to take my contribution sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #130
Of Course the Government liberalmike27 Jun 2012 #94
The person you are addressing seems to espouse only right-wing talking points. If you look at the LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #95
Political celebrity? Marr Jun 2012 #96
Yes liberalmike27 Jun 2012 #136
I call it personalizing, which amounts to the same thing. Raksha Jun 2012 #140
Yeah, right... chervilant Jun 2012 #12
Measurable IQ liberalmike27 Jun 2012 #86
Thank you so much chervilant Jun 2012 #106
no kidding. barbtries Jun 2012 #14
Saw this artcle posted on Facebook this morning and shared it. mmonk Jun 2012 #18
autoxchrom DURec KG Jun 2012 #20
Our daily lives overtake our ability to look around. turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #24
+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #33
The people at the top get loopholes, the people at the bottom get vicious circles ck4829 Jun 2012 #34
Truer words were never written! turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #89
I mostly ignore them because the majority are scamming GarroHorus Jun 2012 #35
I'd like to see a link to your facts SemperEadem Jun 2012 #52
Personal experience GarroHorus Jun 2012 #63
Personal experience AlbertCat Jun 2012 #70
Anecdotal evidence is 100% legitimate in my post GarroHorus Jun 2012 #72
You seem really perturbed that some poor people might be getting a dollar EFerrari Jun 2012 #79
You seem pretty pertured that somebody is skeptical of alleged "homeless" people. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #101
Your concern has been noted. EFerrari Jun 2012 #103
As has yours. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #112
My friends at DU know that I have worked EFerrari Jun 2012 #118
These are not poor people GarroHorus Jun 2012 #126
And now you compare poor people to toilets. EFerrari Jun 2012 #127
No, I'm comparing scam artists to toilets GarroHorus Jun 2012 #129
Not in the least. But thank you EFerrari Jun 2012 #131
I donate to organizations that help the homeless GarroHorus Jun 2012 #138
I see. So in your "personal experience" Zoeisright Jun 2012 #91
It's pretty easy to tell GarroHorus Jun 2012 #98
You asserted "fact" and by doing so you are basing everyone's reality on your anecdotes TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #108
I asserted fact because it was factual. n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #113
Did you follow the scammers home? DocMac Jun 2012 #145
Didn't need to. n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #147
No, its a dishonest assertion with inadequite supporting evidence. D23MIURG23 Jun 2012 #152
personal experience is opinion, not a measurable fact to anyone SemperEadem Jun 2012 #168
There are hundreds of thousands of homeless people in the United states. EFerrari Jun 2012 #53
YTes, there are GarroHorus Jun 2012 #64
And you know this for a fact how? nt raccoon Jun 2012 #54
See my response above. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #65
I know for a fact you don't see half of the truly homeless- Bluerthanblue Jun 2012 #60
It's easy GarroHorus Jun 2012 #66
it isn't easy- Bluerthanblue Jun 2012 #78
Before I put you on Full Ignore, I only wanted to applaud coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #81
McDonald's coupons work, if you're afraid of addicts or scammers mainer Jun 2012 #85
bingo GarroHorus Jun 2012 #114
Sometimes homeless people piss me off... kentuck Jun 2012 #38
We may not be able to do much personally treestar Jun 2012 #41
Exactly. newthinking Jun 2012 #155
You're on your own, buddy! AlbertCat Jun 2012 #42
We are a very sick society right now. Let's hope we can heal ourselves. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #45
Exactly. jp11 Jun 2012 #74
Guilty consciences LuvNewcastle Jun 2012 #46
it is competely a puritanical mindset SemperEadem Jun 2012 #48
Hypervigilance. Thats how. WingDinger Jun 2012 #51
what choice do we have in the family we are born into? Bluerthanblue Jun 2012 #57
Awesome post. Wish I could DU Rec it. Can't rec it highly enough - n/t coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #84
+1 Please consider making this an OP? Please? :) LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #97
I have nothing to add to that except "you're right"! Raksha Jun 2012 #141
I gave twenty dollars to a guy near a stoplight GeorgeWW3 Jun 2012 #59
Of course, when these things happen to THEM, well "that's different". NC_Nurse Jun 2012 #61
Emphatic K&R! - n/t coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #80
Don't randomly hand out dollar bills; give to a homeless shelter instead mainer Jun 2012 #87
fear, shame, guilt . . . mzteris Jun 2012 #88
I find it funny UglyGreed Jun 2012 #93
Yesterday saw a woman who appeared to be homeless hunting cans from the garbage at a store. jwirr Jun 2012 #104
How is your search going? EFerrari Jun 2012 #105
Still looking but they have put me on the waiting lists for all the low-income housing in the area jwirr Jun 2012 #109
Moving in with two kids sounds like taking on a lot. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #116
Yes, I love to baby sit but I want to have my own time also. Oh, well at least now I have an option. jwirr Jun 2012 #121
What did you finally think of the student idea? EFerrari Jun 2012 #123
I talked with my daughter and we realized that I would need to ask for too much for a student to jwirr Jun 2012 #146
I figure mostly what is going on is they can't look the homeless in the eye TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #111
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2012 #125
Whether we help a needy person or turn away is one of the real choices we really still have. leveymg Jun 2012 #128
It really is. EFerrari Jun 2012 #135
Blessings. Made any headway on the summer program? leveymg Jun 2012 #142
School board lady blew me off but there are 4 others. EFerrari Jun 2012 #150
It's a psychological defense mechanism called the "Just World Theory". Odin2005 Jun 2012 #137
I for one would rather be wrong and inadvertently give a scammer a few bucks NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #144
There are such things as 'forced' choices. Which end up not really being 'choices.' freshwest Jun 2012 #149
I'm not destitue Phlem Jun 2012 #151
This message was self-deleted by its author trusty elf Jun 2012 #157
I give the homeless clean blankets. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #158
k&r for reading later n/t w0nderer Jun 2012 #159
Willingness has nothing to do with it. Rex Jun 2012 #163
Denial. "Haha, that can't happen to me! I don't choose it!" Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #167
friggin "rugged individualism" OneGrassRoot Jun 2012 #169
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