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In reply to the discussion: I'm sorry, there's something terribly wrong with him [View all]Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)77. The featured comment to the piece on Jezebel does a good job of explaining this IMO.
"You know, I don't mean to stereotype, but these kinds of "jokes" seem to be mostly thinly-veiled passive-aggression popular with super-privileged old white dudes. The technique is often used to assert their authority, to do something that's basically cruel or mean b/c they know the people around them will basically be forced to laugh it off.
My dad (a CLASSIC super-privileged old white dude if there ever was one) was HUGE for these "jokes". Growing up, he loved to "joke" about how much he hated paying for things like my riding lessons, about how his kids were obviously going to grow up to be failures, about how my mother didn't dress as nicely as he wanted her to. They were obviously hurtful things to say (and things he obviously DID feel upset about) but if you ever confronted him it was always, "I was JOKING! Can't you take a JOKE? Geez!" God forbid if you ever tried to "joke" with him in the same way, though - he'd freak out, or pout about it for days.
My husband's grandfather is also big on these kinds of "jokes". Also see John McCain with his "jokes" to Cindy like: "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."
After literally years of effort, I've finally gotten my dad to agree that these aren't actually "jokes" and aren't acceptable (at least not in my presence). All of these Romney pranks sound like exactly the same thing to me - thinly veiled bullying and leveraging of privilege over people he knows have to tolerate it, and an inability to take what he likes to dish out. Honestly, it makes me really, really dislike Romney."
My dad (a CLASSIC super-privileged old white dude if there ever was one) was HUGE for these "jokes". Growing up, he loved to "joke" about how much he hated paying for things like my riding lessons, about how his kids were obviously going to grow up to be failures, about how my mother didn't dress as nicely as he wanted her to. They were obviously hurtful things to say (and things he obviously DID feel upset about) but if you ever confronted him it was always, "I was JOKING! Can't you take a JOKE? Geez!" God forbid if you ever tried to "joke" with him in the same way, though - he'd freak out, or pout about it for days.
My husband's grandfather is also big on these kinds of "jokes". Also see John McCain with his "jokes" to Cindy like: "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."
After literally years of effort, I've finally gotten my dad to agree that these aren't actually "jokes" and aren't acceptable (at least not in my presence). All of these Romney pranks sound like exactly the same thing to me - thinly veiled bullying and leveraging of privilege over people he knows have to tolerate it, and an inability to take what he likes to dish out. Honestly, it makes me really, really dislike Romney."
I am familiar with this stuff - my Grandpa (who we all loved) did this kind of stuff but we all knew it had a kind of mean tinge to it - my Mom (his daughter) always said he was worse with boys (we saw it with my boy cousins - his grand kids). She always said they were lucky he had two daughters (and then she had two daughters) so we didn't get the full brunt. He was "rougher" with the boys. He was a white man but not wealthy or very privileged in that way - grew up poor in a large Irish Catholic family. I have no doubt it was the type of behavior he probably saw growing up. But it is definitely a passive-aggressive power/intimidation "joke"/teasing.
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wow. i am disgusted with the butter, seeing my brother doing something like that with my boys
seabeyond
Jun 2012
#3
you know, i hadnt thought about that. i dont believe he can win. money is the only thing that
seabeyond
Jun 2012
#17
exactly, yes. and why would this man not get, how serious a moment this is. taking vows.
seabeyond
Jun 2012
#74
Mr. dressage looks like the toughening up type? He's an asshole, the light swtich thing is from
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#14
"I just think people are piling on and trying to make him seem worse than he is."
demwing
Jun 2012
#61
I agree. Something like that is disruptive of a special moment in a couple's life together
deutsey
Jun 2012
#53
But it took peoples minds off the ceremony and wedding and tender thoughts.
Auntie Bush
Jun 2012
#92
In my family, we kids dished it out and took it, but our parents were adults
JDPriestly
Jun 2012
#71
Instead of making Romney seem reasonable, you've made your dad sound like an asshole
Orrex
Jun 2012
#57
The featured comment to the piece on Jezebel does a good job of explaining this IMO.
Pirate Smile
Jun 2012
#77
"Part of your duties as a father is toughening your boys up." We must live in different universes.
frazzled
Jun 2012
#97
Interesting that Willard's "sense of humor" never takes a self-deprecating turn
Tom Ripley
Jun 2012
#23
"He does like pranks but he doesn't like to get pranked. We've learned that the hard way," Josh said
Bozita
Jun 2012
#29
The look in the eyes of these boys was haunting in the pictures posted here last night.
freshwest
Jun 2012
#44
Dads are supposed to say, "Pull my finger," and then fart. That's a prank you pull
valerief
Jun 2012
#64
If Mitt had actually proposed anything re: healtchcare, equal rights or corruption...
Orrex
Jun 2012
#98
Mitt Romney has always striken me as somebody extremely mean. Is that the president we want to have?
Mass
Jun 2012
#89
Correct! And right now in Utah, Romney and his investors are planning that hostile takeover.
Avalux
Jun 2012
#94
One of my co-workers lived in Utah and we had a conversation about their canned food.
Avalux
Jun 2012
#111
I've heard of it, but I think a whole lot of people would find it extremely unfunny.
gulliver
Jun 2012
#104