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VoicesAcrossAmerica

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84. It hurts our cause because we condemn it

Fri Jan 20, 2017, 11:23 PM

Jan 2017

The evidence is clear: Republicans stand with white supremacists, argue against any accusation that mass shooters often have conservative ideology (to the point of forcing the change of a government brief), support the Tea Party and white men with guns occupying a federal building....and they win.

How can all of that happen and yet people suggest that violent protesters hurt our cause? I'm not saying I support them. I am saying that this idea that they hurt us seems to have been fully disproven by the most recent elections.

What hurts us is condemning our own. And in general, I don't claim anarchists. But they're going to be hung around our necks whether or not we want them. Because if you condemn your own, why in the world would I trust you to stand up for me? It's cowardly. And calculated. And voters don't like it. And the Republican Party are much better marketers than the Democrats so they are able to ram these issues home.

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In One Tweet Claire McCaskill shows us that she's in trouble in 2018 [View all] VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 OP

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #1

yes, the new trolls are starting to post on DU. probably kellyannes group. Sunlei Jan 2017 #11

Wow -- VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #22

Maybe you should delete your OP and leave if this place has "gone so far downhill" KittyWampus Jan 2017 #26

This place wasn't here until 2001 Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #69

She is correct. Big Blue Marble Jan 2017 #2

Sen Claire "Both-sides-do-it" McCaskill... TheDebbieDee Jan 2017 #54

Have you not learned that Democrats that you don't like.... CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #87

No, I have not learned that! I have learned that Dems that I don't like TheDebbieDee Jan 2017 #89

That was the same reason why some people voted against Hillary CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #90

She has a big target on her head - kochs are already running ads smearing her kimbutgar Jan 2017 #3

Fake tweet? Cattledog Jan 2017 #4

Nope VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #12

yes fake tweet account and you can tell by who they 'follow', whose paid troll they are. Sunlei Jan 2017 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #24

Yet again -- here are the facts VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #74

Calling out bad behavior becomes a liability. Gimme a break. oasis Jan 2017 #5

UnAmerican VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #13

take down the fake tweet. people from congress and senate are supposed to speak up! Sunlei Jan 2017 #23

She used a number of words, you zeroed in on only one, and out of context. George II Jan 2017 #70

Since when does context matter to Republicans? N/T VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #82

So arson vandalism and aggravated assault are now cool? Truth321 Jan 2017 #6

the violence was, 100% by some group of masked, totally dressed in black organized group. Sunlei Jan 2017 #10

Those are black bloc anarchists, the guys who protest all the free trade conferences, they dionysus Jan 2017 #48

Not particularly VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #14

nope you're wrong. I want all our Senators and Congress persons to speak up. Sunlei Jan 2017 #25

I could see some of the masked people were white. Jim Beard Jan 2017 #93

That's not her. blogslut Jan 2017 #7

It is her VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #15

I concede that is her personal account. blogslut Jan 2017 #17

are you paid by the post? Sunlei Jan 2017 #27

You have over 16,000 posts... VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #33

I don't care how many posts you make. Do not attack Ds here. Sunlei Jan 2017 #38

502 posts in 14 years pintobean Jan 2017 #41

That's me VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #60

506 in 16 years. You've exceeded your ANNUAL average already in two days. George II Jan 2017 #72

lol VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #75

The fact is no one knows or can logically speculate if she's "in trouble" in 2018. George II Jan 2017 #76

2012 was Presidential Year and Pre Trump VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #78

One post in the last ninety days. OilemFirchen Jan 2017 #80

506 to be exact. George II Jan 2017 #71

If true, let her do and say what she has to survive CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #8

Ignore this at your own peril VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #19

Bullshit. pintobean Jan 2017 #35

Ugh -- I hate AOL VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #42

No one was here in 2000 pintobean Jan 2017 #45

Regardless, I have trouble understanding why a "political consultant" post what you posted CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #47

Wait and see VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #58

Don't you realize: CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #86

Sigh VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #92

Don't "sigh" at me CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #94

Are you white or black? VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #96

I'm purple CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #97

Fair enough VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #98

This OP shows how all Ds will be targeted and by next election RW will take their position. Sunlei Jan 2017 #9

Targeted by whom? VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #29

Let's see after the Rethugs kill the ACA, and fuck up Medicaid and Medicare. roamer65 Jan 2017 #16

Breaking the windows of businesses who did nothing to them is hurtful to the effort and classless. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #18

Yes shenmue Jan 2017 #28

How does that show she's in trouble in 2018? George II Jan 2017 #20

Actually it was clear in November that she's got an uphill battle in 2018 loyalsister Jan 2017 #59

Agreed VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #77

Nah, the Revolutionary War was not violent at all. YOHABLO Jan 2017 #30

Revolutionary War ? Hell, we can't even get Democrats to vote for God's sakes. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #36

Transparent bullshit. And really stupid, because you've tipped your hand and now we know who you are Squinch Jan 2017 #31

What are you talking about? VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #34

You'd like to think so. Squinch Jan 2017 #37

She's calling out anarchists. People who want nothing more than to disrupt with violence. Fla Dem Jan 2017 #40

I'd lay money they are plants. We already caught them trying to recruit people to do this. Squinch Jan 2017 #50

We're not as ignorant as you think we are emulatorloo Jan 2017 #43

Protest Peacefully erpowers Jan 2017 #32

Thank you for a thoughtful reply VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #39

Yeah, coming out against violent anarchists is really going to damage McCaskill w her constituents emulatorloo Jan 2017 #46

Her words aren't going to be used against the anarchists -- they're going to be used against BLM n/t VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #52

Uh huh emulatorloo Jan 2017 #53

I agree. She should not have used the word "unAmerican". brutus smith Jan 2017 #49

You Are Welcome n/t erpowers Jan 2017 #100

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #44

At this point in time violence hurts the messaEge we are trying to convey. We don't want the focus TrekLuver Jan 2017 #51

It always will be VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #73

I see both sides of it crazycatlady Jan 2017 #55

It's not a purity test VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #61

Not condoning violence is commendable. You are wrong. Inkfreak Jan 2017 #56

Wait and see VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author nini Jan 2017 #64

What the fuck are you talking about? Stinky The Clown Jan 2017 #57

I guess we have to 'wait and see' nini Jan 2017 #66

Right? wildeyed Jan 2017 #67

she's right.. you lose you message when you do that crap nini Jan 2017 #63

Politicians gonna do politics. wildeyed Jan 2017 #65

Uh-huh.... MineralMan Jan 2017 #68

I don't like her very much LittleBlue Jan 2017 #79

They should be peaceful rumdude Jan 2017 #81

She's right it hurts our cause--peaceful protests are fine, but not some of what happened book_worm Jan 2017 #83

It hurts our cause because we condemn it VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #84

You miss one vital point - violent protestors are not "our own" CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #88

Claire McCaskill is toast BlueStateLib Jan 2017 #85

Progressives in the red state of Missouri will SharonClark Jan 2017 #91

but many progressives might just stay home pstokely Jan 2017 #95

It wouldn't be the first time. nt oasis Jan 2017 #99

So what was her complaint? HassleCat Jan 2017 #101

What is un-American is Donald Trump becoming president with Russian help. Barbara2423 Jan 2017 #102