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stevenleser

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54. They are each dangerous in different ways. I dont understand what is not to buy about the nuke scare
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:25 AM
Jan 2017

stuff. He is a complete wildcard on international relations. He is already confusing and annoying the leadership of other countries. He angers easily and his ego bruises easily and when that happens he reacts angrily and seemingly without self control.

All of those things add up to having very poor and volatile relations with other countries and overreacting to their slights and an increased threat of war with anyone with whom we may have a dispute during his tenure.

Pence is a domestic threat more than anything. He would probably go along with Ryan's plan to cut medicare and social security in a heartbeat.

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It's that word "eventually" that scares me. woodsprite Jan 2017 #1
So we get rid of dump and pense, then we get ryan Merlot Jan 2017 #37
just a question bdamomma Jan 2017 #41
Before they take Trump down he will use a nuclear weapon to wag the dog Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #128
Oh god bdamomma Jan 2017 #133
I seriously doubt it but if he does it will be Syria or northern Iraq. Ligyron Jan 2017 #144
Oh, they can likely pull up dirt on Ryan as well. n/t royable Jan 2017 #44
along with several other names we'd recognize. 2naSalit Jan 2017 #60
Pence and Ryan are Not as Appealing to the Populists McKim Jan 2017 #70
No it's a huge network of traitors. Ryan probably knew about it while McConnell underthematrix Jan 2017 #77
+1 BadgerMom Jan 2017 #79
Nice thought, but how would that work, given he's just 'citizen Joe' right now? MrModerate Jan 2017 #98
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #124
I am hopeful that all the insanity that they are creating will turn us back Maraya1969 Jan 2017 #110
Let's say the process somehoe goes through all THREE of them, BobTheSubgenius Jan 2017 #116
We wouldn't get Ryan by default. Lochloosa Jan 2017 #132
If Trump's campaign is implicated in anything then I doubt Pence would take over NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #134
He would. Then they would have to impeach him. Lochloosa Jan 2017 #138
If it would ever come to that Cryn' Ryan would be under such a spotlight he won't be able to pee DK504 Jan 2017 #139
Don't be surprised if Ryan and Priebus are dirty too. Greybnk48 Jan 2017 #141
Pence is the de facto President just as Cheney once was tavalon Jan 2017 #66
Yes, definitely. Duppers Jan 2017 #88
This... llmart Jan 2017 #92
Shakespeare...(apologies to Aristus)... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #2
Get thee to a Nunnery! Jacob Boehme Jan 2017 #36
What did Malcolm say? Cracklin Charlie Jan 2017 #3
the investigation is counter-intelligence which means there's at least one spy in Trumpland. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #7
If I was going to bet then my money would be on his wife or son in law. nt cstanleytech Jan 2017 #16
Intriguing ... Sunny05 Jan 2017 #28
Neither but a spy has to have access and his wife and son in law both have pretty cstanleytech Jan 2017 #67
Ahhh. Thanks. nt :-) Sunny05 Jan 2017 #76
Melania? Oh come on. 7962 Jan 2017 #30
Yeah, that's B.S. If it's anyone, it's his prior campaign manager. kysrsoze Jan 2017 #38
oh yea bdamomma Jan 2017 #56
Or maybe (ret./fired) Gen. Michael Flynn, who frequently calls Russian contacts. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2017 #65
That's a potential past spy I am talking about potential current ones and the best spy is usually cstanleytech Jan 2017 #72
My money would be Ivanka. eggplant Jan 2017 #82
Possible but hate rarely causes someone to spy and if it's family I don't see them doing it cstanleytech Jan 2017 #85
Her dad is a Slovenian Communist DeminPennswoods Jan 2017 #135
Was. Not now. 7962 Jan 2017 #142
Ohhh? Sunny05 Jan 2017 #25
he didn't say there was a spy in the Trump camp. It could be counterintel in Russia Hamlette Jan 2017 #43
My guess is Manafort George II Jan 2017 #62
+1 SunSeeker Jan 2017 #125
My apologies for being dense, but do you mean ... Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #86
I would think that it would be inevitable PatSeg Jan 2017 #103
My money would be on Eric. colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #106
Let's guess that it's Flynn, Manafort, Carter Page, Lewandowski, Bannon, and Conway. They're all in. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #112
From her lips to Putin's ears Generator Jan 2017 #4
Why would anyone in their right mind piss off both the press... yallerdawg Jan 2017 #5
LOL, I Don't Want To Be President Anymore, Mr. Wizard Grassy Knoll Jan 2017 #8
Comrade Pissymattress isn't in his right mind meow2u3 Jan 2017 #17
read this article you may find it bdamomma Jan 2017 #47
lofl!! uponit7771 Jan 2017 #63
I think that you are right. He is bat shit crazy. CentralMass Jan 2017 #71
That's what I ask people. How stupid do you have to be to piss off the CIA (for God's) sake, and Tess49 Jan 2017 #27
Maybe he knows.. sagetea Jan 2017 #105
It is strange. I don't get it either. Tess49 Jan 2017 #117
THe salient point here is "anyone in their right mind". Amaryllis Jan 2017 #69
President Pence would still be preferable marylandblue Jan 2017 #6
Making Pence POTUS frogmarch Jan 2017 #11
I think you're on the right track. Not sure when they formulated the plan, but it makes sense. manicraven Jan 2017 #81
I want them all to go down, and frogmarch Jan 2017 #101
Take that one step farther rlegro Jan 2017 #122
Trump will probably last through the 2018 midterm elections. oasis Jan 2017 #13
I hope you are right, lets just hope they dont take us with them. nt cstanleytech Jan 2017 #18
From your mouth to God's ears meow2u3 Jan 2017 #19
not if we don't get the vote out....local AND national Hamlette Jan 2017 #46
By 2018 the American voter will be sick and tired of the GOP. nt oasis Jan 2017 #48
There is a Fund for This McKim Jan 2017 #74
eric holder is not progressive tomp Jan 2017 #97
Now, now rlegro Jan 2017 #123
Hopefully it will be sooner. bdamomma Jan 2017 #49
The slow turning wheels of justice turn even slower whenever oasis Jan 2017 #55
they wont flip by themselves. We need to remember Nov 6, 2018 onetexan Jan 2017 #145
Republicans in power tend to overplay their hand. By 2018 oasis Jan 2017 #146
Pence is much more dangerous then tRump elmac Jan 2017 #26
Trump is just dangerous period.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #40
After Pence comes Ryan--even worse than Pence. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #87
And That's The Way..... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #89
I'm with you on that... llmart Jan 2017 #93
They are each dangerous in different ways. I dont understand what is not to buy about the nuke scare stevenleser Jan 2017 #54
But IF Trump is brought down due to interference by the Russians-- maddiemom Jan 2017 #121
It should have come out before the electoral vote Lucinda Jan 2017 #9
i'll believe it when i see it Takket Jan 2017 #10
well they are celebrating in Moscow bdamomma Jan 2017 #53
Putin is playing both ends: He made tRump Great Again and then he will destroy him by releasing tape Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2017 #68
Trump that chump. oasis Jan 2017 #12
knr triron Jan 2017 #14
The democrats should start tying as many republicans to the SS trump as they can. Salviati Jan 2017 #15
Time to churn out the issue ads meow2u3 Jan 2017 #20
Agreed, the Republicans fed and nurtured the beast so they deserve to go down with it to. cstanleytech Jan 2017 #21
And I understand that when trump is impeached... Salviati Jan 2017 #78
If Trump had actually shown that he could change once he was sworn in I might argue that he should cstanleytech Jan 2017 #80
so many good replies here! orleans Jan 2017 #22
Ball gets rolling by June as Republicans will be desperate to get it over by Sept KittyWampus Jan 2017 #34
But then we will have True Believer, Christofascist Pence. He terrifies me even more catbyte Jan 2017 #23
It's the smart play, I believe the right will settle for an age increase on Social Security. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #31
Pence would make all of our worse nightmares come true elmac Jan 2017 #32
Pence has a history of backing down when he gets hit with severe criticism. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #113
I've always thought i was going to start at 62 7962 Jan 2017 #33
I took mine at 63... llmart Jan 2017 #95
Thats the way i was looking at it. And your last sentence says a lot too. 7962 Jan 2017 #102
Its not BS. former9thward Jan 2017 #131
Everyone's situation is different. llmart Jan 2017 #136
GOP and Pence can still run table of bills benld74 Jan 2017 #24
Can they get re-elected in four years after having to repair the damage from President Trump? Cracklin Charlie Jan 2017 #39
That's my guess get the red out Jan 2017 #130
I thought she implied the same thing. No wonder he wants to control the press. n/t Tess49 Jan 2017 #29
thanks for the confirmation. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #35
Welcome! Tess49 Jan 2017 #42
manafort? flynn? tillerson? spanone Jan 2017 #45
Is that why twitler did an about face today regarding the CIA? AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #50
If/when Trump goes down Dopers_Greed Jan 2017 #51
Oh I would love see bdamomma Jan 2017 #57
K&R... spanone Jan 2017 #52
K&R bdamomma Jan 2017 #58
Information will find its way to the surface, little hands can not cover it forever. Thinkingabout Jan 2017 #59
ROGER STONE ROGER STONE ROGER STONE !!!!!!!!!! Trust Buster Jan 2017 #61
And Ghouliani... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #99
"Tricksy, he is!" colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #107
Gollumani? Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #108
We are not talking about who received leaks out of the New York FBI office. We are talking about Trust Buster Jan 2017 #111
Exactly DeminPennswoods Jan 2017 #137
If he was installed through Russian interference... liberalmuse Jan 2017 #64
The GOP & their minions are responsible for this disaster. Duppers Jan 2017 #91
Political parties were not addressed in the Constitution.... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #100
do you have a link to what Maxine said? Amaryllis Jan 2017 #73
We need to keep up the pressure! LOVE u Rep. Waters. (n/t) FreepFryer Jan 2017 #75
The biggest problem I see here... usedtobedemgurl Jan 2017 #83
Exactly! Duppers Jan 2017 #90
I wish we could Dem2 Jan 2017 #115
Hmmm. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #84
Well hurry it up then bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #94
Do you think Pence is caught up in this also? SHRED Jan 2017 #96
I agree...especially after the CIA debacle visit yesterday...this muthafucka is going down. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #104
Yes. And all of Trump's blustering against the Intel community in the past is so that he can skip fox Jan 2017 #109
She's not the first member of Congress to say this. Vinca Jan 2017 #114
Well, God damn it... Percy Cholmondeley Jan 2017 #118
Not just Pence, but also the illegitimate Republican "majorities" in the House & Senate Achilleaze Jan 2017 #119
Russian intelligence very good at psychological profiling rlegro Jan 2017 #120
It's a shame Putin doesn't put as much effort at helping his people as he does attacking his enemies SunSeeker Jan 2017 #127
I already knew this because George Will has jumped the sinkinig Trump Titanic McCamy Taylor Jan 2017 #126
And Melania has been an informant! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #129
I went to hear Ted Lieu speak, during a local Democratic club meeting. calimary Jan 2017 #140
She's all talk, if you don't agree, give examples frankieallen Jan 2017 #143
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