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JCanete

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5. Protectionism would have been good a long time ago, when we could have set labor standards
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:36 PM
Jan 2017

for foreign nations that wanted to export to us, or our own businesses that wanted to outsource and then sell us those products that were made by people making slave wages.

Protectionism now could be done, yes as a stop-gap, but not necessarily one that has to benefit the businesses over labor. How it will be done, if at all under Trump, will probably be horrible, because it will have nothing to do with demanding certain standards of foreign industries as it pertains to the environment or their workers. If I had to guess, I'd say it will also probably have all kinds of loopholes for American companies that want to continue to have their products made abroad, in spite of his rhetoric.

But I don't see why you would assume that protectionism couldn't have been instituted in ways that were good for the planet, and good for people everywhere.

I think what is promising here though, is that we both land at different points on the spectrum when it comes to our feelings about Capitalism, BUT that we are both reading the same writing on the wall, and both seeing BIG as an idea that's time has come. This is something Democrats need to start fighting for, and I think we can actually salvage the good of Capitalism with something like this and actually mitigate a whole lot of the bad, if certainly not all of it. I still have a couple of confusions about how BIG would be resistant to certain predatory behaviors(although I do see it helping by reducing some of the depression that makes people take certain kinds of bad risks), not to mention inflation, but it still seems like the best option I've run across.



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The think is that... nycbos Jan 2017 #1
Throughout history, tyrants have been able to misdirect people's anger... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #2
+++++ JHan Jan 2017 #8
When does Rollerball start? n/t Hestia Jan 2017 #3
it seems to me that in a sensible society, increasing automation would be a good thing anarch Jan 2017 #4
It isn't that automation is bad. In fact, in theory, destruction of the planet withstanding, this JCanete Jan 2017 #6
agreed: JHan Jan 2017 #9
Protectionism would have been good a long time ago, when we could have set labor standards JCanete Jan 2017 #5
Well we had an opportunity with the TPP... JHan Jan 2017 #12
The notion that TPP is good and that protectionism is bad, is predicated on assumptions that JCanete Jan 2017 #15
However... JHan Jan 2017 #16
there is a vast difference between expecting other countries to be as finicky? as us* JCanete Jan 2017 #17
You cannot make those kinds of judgments for other countries.. JHan Jan 2017 #18
I'm not sure how tarrifs would be lecturing. They would be much more about making us JCanete Jan 2017 #19
Tariffs have forever failed: JHan Jan 2017 #20
Tariffs have failed for who, when, how? How were they implemented and what was their intention? JCanete Jan 2017 #21
Again.. JHan Jan 2017 #22
unless you can demonstrate that language in the thing would have done something other than JCanete Jan 2017 #23
No trade agreement will be liked by everyone... JHan Jan 2017 #24
This is precisely what TPP was about. joshcryer Jan 2017 #7
Drumpfy can try to outlaw automation. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #10
Thank you for this, JH Cha Jan 2017 #11
Truck drivers, taxi, Uber, cashiers, fast food workers, who am I leaving out? sarcasmo Jan 2017 #13
Hedge Fund managers potentially... lol.. JHan Jan 2017 #14
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