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JCanete

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19. I'm not sure how tarrifs would be lecturing. They would be much more about making us

Reply to JHan (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:07 AM

Jan 2017

responsible for our buying behavior here at home. After all, we are the biggest actual problem. Of course, as such, we actually have no business lecturing the world, but we are still the richest nation among the lot, and our supply-side economic model affects the rest of the world. As such, we have every responsibility to regulate ourselves, which means regulating what we buy and the conditions under which it was made.

I know trade deals do have some protections here, which I guess isn't lecturing by your definition? even though, arguably it would still be strong-arming. I'm sure we have a lot of leverage when we determine what the agreements are. The question is are they good enough, and are they intended to be good, or just to look good? The question is who is really benefitting from them?

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It isn't that automation is bad. In fact, in theory, destruction of the planet withstanding, this JCanete Jan 2017 #6

agreed: JHan Jan 2017 #9

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However... JHan Jan 2017 #16

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You cannot make those kinds of judgments for other countries.. JHan Jan 2017 #18

I'm not sure how tarrifs would be lecturing. They would be much more about making us JCanete Jan 2017 #19

Tariffs have forever failed: JHan Jan 2017 #20

Tariffs have failed for who, when, how? How were they implemented and what was their intention? JCanete Jan 2017 #21

Again.. JHan Jan 2017 #22

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This is precisely what TPP was about. joshcryer Jan 2017 #7

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Thank you for this, JH Cha Jan 2017 #11

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Hedge Fund managers potentially... lol.. JHan Jan 2017 #14