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rolypolychloe

(57 posts)
43. I think this also
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:56 PM
Jan 2017

Nothing else makes sense. I started to have a bad feeling when the Comey situation started. Between the director and leaking subordinates, it became clear the FBI had chosen sides. Government bureaucrats are all about CYA, and for Comey to behave like he did, someone must have the goods on him, maybe the Russians, maybe the Republicans. It was the FBI that declared that the Democratic servers were hacked. Was it the Russians or did the FBI install the software that would both grab the emails and implicate the Russians? Reportedly, the FBI then went to almost every state to check for hacked voting systems. I am very interested in how exactly they did that. If they were thorough, they would have had to yank the EPROM from each machine and compare it with a clean reference EPROM. If the FBI didn't do that, then they can't claim that there is no evidence of hacking because they never even looked. If they did look at the chips, given that the FBI had picked sides, could they not have put in their own compromised chip? Then weird polls starting showing the results were close, which is how you know the fix is in. The results have to indicate a win greater that the recount %, but not be horribly far from the polls. My feeling is that because of Comey, the FBI is no longer entitled to a presumption of innocence and they should be excluded from participating in any investigation. The FBI definitely shouldn't have been sent to investigate the voting machines.

So Trump wins and we do a recount in 3 states, sort of. In Wisconsin, there was a hand recount of the ballots except in the districts where they didn't want to, presumably because it wouldn't go well. The republicans fought tooth and nail with the other 2 states, no doubt knowing a proper recount would not go well for them. Requests to examine the chips were refused, and one state had screwy laws that if the count on the ballot box, didn't match what was in the box, you had to go with what was on the box. Same as if the ballot box was tampered with, so the poll workers made a point of tampering with the ballot boxes. Basically, the recount provided zero confidence that the election was honest.

Having said all that, I think the low tech methods are what swung the election. Voter suppression being the top of the list. Absentee ballots with minority names not sent or tossed if mailed. People of color being sent to the wrong voting machines, or getting red pens for their optical ballots which cannot be read by the reader. Dishonest election workers. What people don't seem to understand is if votes and be screwed up by accident, they can also be screwed up on purpose. We need voting systems where even if an election worker sees your skin color, hears your voice, or sees your name and knows you are not in their preferred party, they are unable to trash or misdirect your vote.

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BREAKING NEWS WI DEMS HACKED BY RUSSIA [View all] jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 OP
more fingerprints triron Jan 2017 #1
link? Ellipsis Jan 2017 #2
Found this: Dr. Strange Jan 2017 #5
Stolen not just in WI, but MI, PA, and FL too 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2017 #3
Knowing ShowerHead's propensity for reversing the facts.... LisaM Jan 2017 #4
Eggsactly... elias7 Jan 2017 #6
Believe this too.. HipChick Jan 2017 #7
Ooooo, I love your clip art! Fabulous! manicraven Jan 2017 #37
Can't take credit for it HipChick Jan 2017 #41
and NC triron Jan 2017 #10
I think NC was good old fashioned voter supression & intimidation Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #53
The other shoe has actually fallen. tenorly Jan 2017 #64
Now how do you folks in Wisconsin Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #8
I believe they have been cheating for 6 years and Walker did NOT win 3 times jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #11
Blew me away when the Recall blew up. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #16
I'm a BadgerMom BadgerMom Jan 2017 #42
Like you as a Brush Bunny, Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #48
keeping R's in governorships of swing states is no doubt part of the election stealing scheme. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #31
We're VERY involved here. Greybnk48 Jan 2017 #20
Know how a couple of Counties Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #21
It makes sense! dubyadiprecession Jan 2017 #9
knr triron Jan 2017 #12
holy fuck! nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #13
k n r Achilleaze Jan 2017 #14
Look at this...Trashpot is right...the election was rigged! TrekLuver Jan 2017 #15
This is very strange. drm604 Jan 2017 #17
I'm reading a book... susanna Jan 2017 #23
Is there any reason given for that? BobTheSubgenius Jan 2017 #51
No, there was no reason given. susanna Jan 2017 #56
It's likely that one of Putin's goals is to undermine faith in western democratic systems. drm604 Jan 2017 #65
This is where the author is going...he made this point already. susanna Jan 2017 #66
knr triron Jan 2017 #18
My county site was attacked as well GregD Jan 2017 #19
Do you have any way of tracing the origins? Seems something that should be reported to the Feds. JudyM Jan 2017 #36
Not really. IP numbers can be spoofed. GregD Jan 2017 #60
I will go to my grave believing that Hillary won and should be in the White House. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #22
I am with you. susanna Jan 2017 #24
absolutely, but election hacking is hard to prove, and has literally no penalty even if proved. TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #32
I understand your point. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #44
But there would be civil war if necessary... sweetapogee Jan 2017 #50
When the people have finally had enough. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #55
I've thought so since the election, too, as so much didn't add up. manicraven Jan 2017 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #47
This was me as well. susanna Jan 2017 #59
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #49
Polling BadgerMom Jan 2017 #52
The polls changed signicantly after the Comey announcement mythology Jan 2017 #61
I get so angry! BadgerMom Jan 2017 #25
Excellent post! I feel exactly the same way. I'm furious with the sneaky, underhanded GOP, but manicraven Jan 2017 #35
Agree 100%. We need top to bottom election reform and ethics rules with teeth. JudyM Jan 2017 #40
Couldn't agree with you More flying_wahini Jan 2017 #69
I've thought and thought BadgerMom Jan 2017 #70
I believe so, too, jody. Same here in NC where the Dem won governor. blm Jan 2017 #26
+1,000 Island Blue Jan 2017 #45
Hey BLM - NC actually participated in Kris Kobach's "Cross check" KatyBR Jan 2017 #72
or Tiffany Trump blm Jan 2017 #73
I'll go further malaise Jan 2017 #27
The FBI hacked them elmac Jan 2017 #28
I think this also rolypolychloe Jan 2017 #43
Reported to the FBI? ananda Jan 2017 #29
Why on earth would they create user names with russian suffixes? AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #30
Another link I found..... Iamaartist Jan 2017 #33
Stolen HondoOhnaka Jan 2017 #38
Thanx for the link ..... from the article Botany Jan 2017 #68
There may be a sleeping-virus in their system. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #39
Trump is illegitimate. NCjack Jan 2017 #46
The actual hacking and election stealing was most likely done by WI GOP. milestogo Jan 2017 #54
This is bad BainsBane Jan 2017 #57
No. Really. The IC and other departments needs to get a handle on this. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #58
The evidence is clear that you're wrong about who won Wisconsin mythology Jan 2017 #62
so half is good enough for you jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #74
knew it then, know it now: WI, MI, PA, FL, NC and MO: Look at the exit polls. joanbarnes Jan 2017 #63
So How many Presidential Elections Does This Make? blue-wave Jan 2017 #67
I have never believed that .. coco22 Jan 2017 #71
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