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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
29. You are completely mistaken.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:24 AM
Jan 2017

First, as to whether "they themselves do approve," the Wikimedia Foundation has been very concerned about the developing problem of paid editing. You can read the policy on paid-contribution disclosure (including prohibition of editing with a conflict of interest) here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: Paid-contribution_disclosure (except you'll first have to delete the blank space before the word "Paid"; sorry, I can't figure out how to make the link work when it includes a P after a colon so that DU software makes it smiley).

Now, obviously, corporate flacks can and do try to violate the policy, while the Foundation and Wikipedia volunteers try to catch them and block them. I believe that, in this ongoing cat-and-mouse game, each side has had some successes. But what's absolutely clear is that there is no truth to your charge that Wikipedia approves of any takeover.

Second, you assert -- without troubling to provide a shred of evidence -- that these corporate efforts have actually succeeded in taking over Wikipedia. The fact is that, even if a paid corporate shill makes the kind of biased edit you describe, and even if that person is not outed as a paid shill, that's hardly the end of the matter. Wikipedia's strength is the ease with which errors may be corrected. A shill's edit can be reverted by a disinterested editor.

I'll take one example that I know something about personally, because, as an attorney, I represented some of the families whose well water had been poisoned by General Electric. If you go to the Wikipedia article on GE, specifically to the "Environmental record" section, you'll find accounts that are quite damning to the corporation. I haven't participated in editing that article, but I'm sure there are plenty of Wikipedians who have it watchlisted, meaning that they'll be notified of any changes. If GE pays someone to clean up the article to make it "read like PR fluff", one of those unpaid editors will restore the information.

The section on GE's environmental record also includes some things that put the company in a good light, such as its involvement in renewable energy. Does that show there's a problem? No, it's completely proper. Wikipedia is there to provide the information, not to tailor the facts to a preconceived ideology (whether of the left or of the right).

If it's true that GE "agreed to pay a $250 million settlement in connection with claims it polluted the Housatonic River (Pittsfield, Massachusetts) and other sites with polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) and other hazardous substances," and it's also true that GE's "Ecomagination initiative ... resulted in 70 green products being brought to market," then both those facts belong in the Wikipedia article. And there they are.

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LOL! nt marybourg Jan 2017 #1
Thank Gawd only 1 of that species survives.... FSogol Jan 2017 #2
Haha! herding cats Jan 2017 #3
LOL! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #4
Lolololol!!! bravenak Jan 2017 #5
Thanks! I needed the laugh Freethinker65 Jan 2017 #6
But why isn't Mitch McConnell there as well? yellowcanine Jan 2017 #7
Ain't Mitch a turtle? I'm just glad the Horseshoe Crab was above Ryan... JHan Jan 2017 #14
It's now been changed. longship Jan 2017 #8
it's seems to still be there. Raine1967 Jan 2017 #25
I am just curious The_Voice_of_Reason Jan 2017 #9
Vandalizing Wikipedia should not be celebrated. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #10
Yeah, but it's not like the information was inaccurate. JHan Jan 2017 #13
Thank you - I agree. HeartachesNhangovers Jan 2017 #16
I don't generally approve of intentionally fabricating stuff on Wikipedia. However, Stonepounder Jan 2017 #17
Very noble of you, considering they themselves do approve. tenorly Jan 2017 #20
You are completely mistaken. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #29
Spot on! Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #31
I see laughing, not celebration... LanternWaste Jan 2017 #24
GOP has paid cyber punks elmac Jan 2017 #26
I disagree on several counts Jim Lane Jan 2017 #36
But it usual does work, other than incidents such as this. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #30
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas shenmue Jan 2017 #11
LOL.... CherokeeDem Jan 2017 #12
screen capped the wiki page. Javaman Jan 2017 #15
Downloaded the Wikipedia page meow2u3 Jan 2017 #18
Love it. There needs to be more JDC Jan 2017 #19
No, there doesn't. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #32
More invertebrates listed JDC Jan 2017 #33
Who's scolding? Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #34
Well, *I* for one am scolding. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #37
Exactly. It's the most accurate description of Paul Ryan that exists......lol. JHan Jan 2017 #35
I love our clever Dem humor!! ailsagirl Jan 2017 #21
Hilarious, but it won't last long. MineralMan Jan 2017 #22
I could think of few more party befor russia blueseas Jan 2017 #23
Biggest laugh I've had since the fucking election. VOX Jan 2017 #27
FANTASTIC! MBS Jan 2017 #28
hard to find anything to laugh about these days. But this worked! Takket Jan 2017 #38
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