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In reply to the discussion: "We warned the president -- don't ever, ever agree with the Republicans," [View all]stockholmer
(3,751 posts)50. a REAL FDR-style jobs/protect Social Secuity-Medicare/rebuild USA/end the banks grip/fair tax Plan
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30 MILLION PRODUCTIVE JOBS TO REBUILD US INFRASTRUCTURE, INDUSTRY AND AGRICULTURE: THE PROGRAM TO END THE ECONOMIC DEPRESSION
The US and the world are gripped by a deepening economic depression. There is no recovery and no automatic business cycle which will revive the economy. This bottomless depression will worsen until policies are reformed. The depression results from deregulated and globalized financial speculation, especially the $1 quadrillion world derivatives bubble. The US industrial base has been gutted, and the US standard of living has fallen by almost two thirds over the last four decades. We must reverse this trend of speculation, de-industrialization, and immiseration. Current policy bails out bankers, but harms working people, industrial producers, farmers, and small business. We must defend civil society and democratic institutions from the effects of high unemployment and economic breakdown. We therefore demand:
1. Measures to reduce speculation and minimize the burden of fictitious capital:
End all bailouts of banks and financial institutions. Claw back the TARP and other public money given or lent to financiers. Abolish the notion of too big to fail; JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Citibank, Wells Fargo and other Wall Street zombie banks are insolvent and must be seized by the FDIC for chapter 7 liquidation, with derivatives eliminated by triage. Re-institute the Glass-Steagall firewall to separate banks, brokerages, and insurance. Ban credit default swaps and adjustable rate mortgages. To generate revenue and discourage speculation, levy a 1% Tobin tax (securities transfer tax or trading tax) on all financial transactions including derivatives (futures, options, indices, and over the counter derivatives), stocks, bonds, foreign exchange, and commodities, especially program trading, high-frequency trading, and flash trading.
Set up a 15% reserve requirement for all OTC derivatives. Use Tobin tax revenue and a revived corporate income tax to provide immediate tax relief to individuals, families, the self-employed, and small business by increasing personal exemptions and standard deductions. Stop all foreclosures on primary residences, businesses, and farms for five years or the duration of the depression, whichever lasts longer. Set a 10% maximum rate of interest on credit cards and payday loans. Re-regulate commodities markets with 100% margin requirements, position limits, and anti-speculation protections for hedgers and end users to prevent oil and gasoline price spikes. Enforce labor laws and anti-trust laws against monopolies and cartels. Restore individual chapter 11.
2. Measures to nationalize the Federal Reserve, cut federal borrowing, and provide 0% federal credit for production:
Seize the Federal Reserve and bring it under the US Treasury as the National Bank of the United States, no longer the preserve of unelected and unaccountable cliques of incompetent and predatory bankers. The size of the money supply, interest rates, and approved types of lending must be determined by public laws passed and debated openly, passed by the congress and signed by the president. Stop US government borrowing from zombie banks and foreigners -- let the US government function as its own bank. Reverse current policy by instituting 0% federal LENDING with preferential treatment for tangible physical production and manufacturing of goods and commodities, to include industry, agriculture, construction, mining, energy production, transportation, infrastructure building, public works, and scientific research, but not financial services and speculation.
Issue successive tranches of $1 trillion as needed to create 30 million union-wage productive jobs and attain full employment for the first time since 1945, reversing the secular decline in the US standard of living. Provide 0% credit to reconvert idle auto and other plants and re-hire unemployed workers to build modern rail, mass transit, farm tractors, and aerospace equipment, including for export. Extend 0% federal credit for production to small businesses like auto and electronics repair shops, dry cleaners, restaurants, tailors, family farms, taxis, and trucking. Maintain commercial credit for retail stores. Create an unlimited rediscount guarantee by the National Bank for public works projects to provide cash to local banks for bills of exchange pertaining to infrastructure and public works. Repatriate the foreign dollar overhang by encouraging China, Japan, and other dollar holders to place orders for US-made capital goods and modern hospitals. Revive the US Export-Import Bank. Set up a 10% tariff to protect domestic re-industrialization. Nationalize and operate GM, Chrysler, CIT, and other needed but insolvent firms as a permanent public sector. Maintain Amtrak and USPS.
3. Measures to re-industrialize, build infrastructure, develop science drivers, create jobs, and restore a high-wage economy:
State and local governments and special government agencies modeled on the Tennessee Valley Authority will be prime contractors for an ambitious program of infrastructure and public works subcontracted to the private sector. To deal with collapsing US infrastructure, modernize the US elgeneration, pebble bed, high temperature reactors of 1,000 to 2,000 megawatts each. Rebuild the rail system with 50,000 miles of ultra-modern maglev Amtrak rail reaching into every state. Rebuild the entire interstate highway system to 21st century standards. Rebuild drinking water and waste water systems nationwide. Promote canal building and irrigation. For health care, build 1,000 500-bed modern hospitals to meet the minimum Hill-Burton standards of 1946.
Train 250,000 doctors over the next decade. The Davis-Bacon Act will mandate union pay scales for all projects. For the farm sector, provide a debt freeze for the duration of the crisis, 0% federal credit for working capital and capital improvements, a ban on foreclosures, and federal price supports at 110% of parity across the board, with farm surpluses being used for a new Food for Peace program to stop world famine and genocide. Working with other interested nations, invest $100 billion each in: biomedical research to cure dread diseases; high energy physics (including lasers) to develop fusion power and beyond; and a multi-decade NASA program of moon-Mars manned exploration, permanent colonization, and industrial production. These science drivers will provide the technological spin-offs to modernize the entire US economy in the same way that the NASA moon shot gave us microchips and computers in the 1960s. These steps will expand and upgrade the national stock of capital goods and enhance the real productivity of US labor. Return the federal budget and foreign trade to surplus in 5 years or less.
4. Measures to defend and expand the social safety net:
Restore all cuts; full funding at improved levels for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, jobless benefits, WIC, Head Start, and related programs. Offer Medicare for All to anyone under 65 who wants it at $100 per person per month, with reduced rates for families, students, and the unemployed. Pay for this with Tobin tax revenues and TARP clawback, and by ending the Iraq and Afghan wars. Seek to raise life expectancy by five years for starters. No rationing or death panels; savings can come only by finding cures. Quickly reach a $15 per hour living wage. Repeal the Taft-Hartley Act and affirm the right to organize. Pass card check to promote collective bargaining.
5. Measures to re-launch world trade and promote world recovery:
Create a new world monetary system including the euro, the yen, the dollar, and the ruble, plus emerging Arab and Latin American regional currencies, with fixed exchange rates and narrow bands of fluctuation enforced by participating governments. Institute clearing and gold settlement among member states. Replace the IMF with a Multilateral Development Bank to finance world trade and infrastructure.
The goal of the system must be to re-launch world trade through exports of high-technology capital goods, especially to sub-Saharan Africa, south Asia, and the poorer parts of Latin America. Promote a world Marshall Plan of great projects of world infrastructure, including: a Middle East reconstruction and development program; plans for the Ganges-Bramaputra, Indus, Mekong, Amazon, and Nile-Congo river basins; bridge-tunnel combinations to span the Bering Strait, the Straits of Gibraltar, the Straits of Malacca, the Sicilian narrows, and connect Japan to the Asian mainland; second Panama canal and Kra canals; Eurasian silk road, Cape to Cairo/Dakar to Djibouti, Australian coastal, and Inter-American rail projects, and more. American businesses will receive many of these orders, which means American jobs.
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This program will create 30 million jobs in less than five years. It will end the depression, rebuild the US economy, improve wages and standards of living, re-start productive investment, and attain full employment with increased levels of capital investment per job. Most orders placed under this program will go to US private sector bidders. Because of the vastly increased volume of goods put on the market, inflation will not result.
30 MILLION PRODUCTIVE JOBS TO REBUILD US INFRASTRUCTURE, INDUSTRY AND AGRICULTURE: THE PROGRAM TO END THE ECONOMIC DEPRESSION
The US and the world are gripped by a deepening economic depression. There is no recovery and no automatic business cycle which will revive the economy. This bottomless depression will worsen until policies are reformed. The depression results from deregulated and globalized financial speculation, especially the $1 quadrillion world derivatives bubble. The US industrial base has been gutted, and the US standard of living has fallen by almost two thirds over the last four decades. We must reverse this trend of speculation, de-industrialization, and immiseration. Current policy bails out bankers, but harms working people, industrial producers, farmers, and small business. We must defend civil society and democratic institutions from the effects of high unemployment and economic breakdown. We therefore demand:
1. Measures to reduce speculation and minimize the burden of fictitious capital:
End all bailouts of banks and financial institutions. Claw back the TARP and other public money given or lent to financiers. Abolish the notion of too big to fail; JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Citibank, Wells Fargo and other Wall Street zombie banks are insolvent and must be seized by the FDIC for chapter 7 liquidation, with derivatives eliminated by triage. Re-institute the Glass-Steagall firewall to separate banks, brokerages, and insurance. Ban credit default swaps and adjustable rate mortgages. To generate revenue and discourage speculation, levy a 1% Tobin tax (securities transfer tax or trading tax) on all financial transactions including derivatives (futures, options, indices, and over the counter derivatives), stocks, bonds, foreign exchange, and commodities, especially program trading, high-frequency trading, and flash trading.
Set up a 15% reserve requirement for all OTC derivatives. Use Tobin tax revenue and a revived corporate income tax to provide immediate tax relief to individuals, families, the self-employed, and small business by increasing personal exemptions and standard deductions. Stop all foreclosures on primary residences, businesses, and farms for five years or the duration of the depression, whichever lasts longer. Set a 10% maximum rate of interest on credit cards and payday loans. Re-regulate commodities markets with 100% margin requirements, position limits, and anti-speculation protections for hedgers and end users to prevent oil and gasoline price spikes. Enforce labor laws and anti-trust laws against monopolies and cartels. Restore individual chapter 11.
2. Measures to nationalize the Federal Reserve, cut federal borrowing, and provide 0% federal credit for production:
Seize the Federal Reserve and bring it under the US Treasury as the National Bank of the United States, no longer the preserve of unelected and unaccountable cliques of incompetent and predatory bankers. The size of the money supply, interest rates, and approved types of lending must be determined by public laws passed and debated openly, passed by the congress and signed by the president. Stop US government borrowing from zombie banks and foreigners -- let the US government function as its own bank. Reverse current policy by instituting 0% federal LENDING with preferential treatment for tangible physical production and manufacturing of goods and commodities, to include industry, agriculture, construction, mining, energy production, transportation, infrastructure building, public works, and scientific research, but not financial services and speculation.
Issue successive tranches of $1 trillion as needed to create 30 million union-wage productive jobs and attain full employment for the first time since 1945, reversing the secular decline in the US standard of living. Provide 0% credit to reconvert idle auto and other plants and re-hire unemployed workers to build modern rail, mass transit, farm tractors, and aerospace equipment, including for export. Extend 0% federal credit for production to small businesses like auto and electronics repair shops, dry cleaners, restaurants, tailors, family farms, taxis, and trucking. Maintain commercial credit for retail stores. Create an unlimited rediscount guarantee by the National Bank for public works projects to provide cash to local banks for bills of exchange pertaining to infrastructure and public works. Repatriate the foreign dollar overhang by encouraging China, Japan, and other dollar holders to place orders for US-made capital goods and modern hospitals. Revive the US Export-Import Bank. Set up a 10% tariff to protect domestic re-industrialization. Nationalize and operate GM, Chrysler, CIT, and other needed but insolvent firms as a permanent public sector. Maintain Amtrak and USPS.
3. Measures to re-industrialize, build infrastructure, develop science drivers, create jobs, and restore a high-wage economy:
State and local governments and special government agencies modeled on the Tennessee Valley Authority will be prime contractors for an ambitious program of infrastructure and public works subcontracted to the private sector. To deal with collapsing US infrastructure, modernize the US elgeneration, pebble bed, high temperature reactors of 1,000 to 2,000 megawatts each. Rebuild the rail system with 50,000 miles of ultra-modern maglev Amtrak rail reaching into every state. Rebuild the entire interstate highway system to 21st century standards. Rebuild drinking water and waste water systems nationwide. Promote canal building and irrigation. For health care, build 1,000 500-bed modern hospitals to meet the minimum Hill-Burton standards of 1946.
Train 250,000 doctors over the next decade. The Davis-Bacon Act will mandate union pay scales for all projects. For the farm sector, provide a debt freeze for the duration of the crisis, 0% federal credit for working capital and capital improvements, a ban on foreclosures, and federal price supports at 110% of parity across the board, with farm surpluses being used for a new Food for Peace program to stop world famine and genocide. Working with other interested nations, invest $100 billion each in: biomedical research to cure dread diseases; high energy physics (including lasers) to develop fusion power and beyond; and a multi-decade NASA program of moon-Mars manned exploration, permanent colonization, and industrial production. These science drivers will provide the technological spin-offs to modernize the entire US economy in the same way that the NASA moon shot gave us microchips and computers in the 1960s. These steps will expand and upgrade the national stock of capital goods and enhance the real productivity of US labor. Return the federal budget and foreign trade to surplus in 5 years or less.
4. Measures to defend and expand the social safety net:
Restore all cuts; full funding at improved levels for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, jobless benefits, WIC, Head Start, and related programs. Offer Medicare for All to anyone under 65 who wants it at $100 per person per month, with reduced rates for families, students, and the unemployed. Pay for this with Tobin tax revenues and TARP clawback, and by ending the Iraq and Afghan wars. Seek to raise life expectancy by five years for starters. No rationing or death panels; savings can come only by finding cures. Quickly reach a $15 per hour living wage. Repeal the Taft-Hartley Act and affirm the right to organize. Pass card check to promote collective bargaining.
5. Measures to re-launch world trade and promote world recovery:
Create a new world monetary system including the euro, the yen, the dollar, and the ruble, plus emerging Arab and Latin American regional currencies, with fixed exchange rates and narrow bands of fluctuation enforced by participating governments. Institute clearing and gold settlement among member states. Replace the IMF with a Multilateral Development Bank to finance world trade and infrastructure.
The goal of the system must be to re-launch world trade through exports of high-technology capital goods, especially to sub-Saharan Africa, south Asia, and the poorer parts of Latin America. Promote a world Marshall Plan of great projects of world infrastructure, including: a Middle East reconstruction and development program; plans for the Ganges-Bramaputra, Indus, Mekong, Amazon, and Nile-Congo river basins; bridge-tunnel combinations to span the Bering Strait, the Straits of Gibraltar, the Straits of Malacca, the Sicilian narrows, and connect Japan to the Asian mainland; second Panama canal and Kra canals; Eurasian silk road, Cape to Cairo/Dakar to Djibouti, Australian coastal, and Inter-American rail projects, and more. American businesses will receive many of these orders, which means American jobs.
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This program will create 30 million jobs in less than five years. It will end the depression, rebuild the US economy, improve wages and standards of living, re-start productive investment, and attain full employment with increased levels of capital investment per job. Most orders placed under this program will go to US private sector bidders. Because of the vastly increased volume of goods put on the market, inflation will not result.
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"We warned the president -- don't ever, ever agree with the Republicans," [View all]
MadHound
Jun 2012
OP
they never even talked about the real solution- remove the middle man insurance company
Ghost of Huey Long
Jun 2012
#2
Wendell Potter is an all-American hero! He really is because he was the first to bring
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2012
#24
and who will pay for it. Social Security and Medicare are paid for by us. It is mandatory, and in
still_one
Jun 2012
#155
most people have jobs, where the money can and will be taken from paychecks, tax refunds etc.
Ghost of Huey Long
Jun 2012
#208
oh jesus. is all this because he's a bitter and jaded smoove johnny supporter?
dionysus
Jun 2012
#97
In theory, the individual mandate makes sense. I support a public option, at the very least.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2012
#26
All other nations which mandate the purchase of health insurance make it illegal to profit from
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#148
I think a lot of liberals supported mandate, especially to get something of value enacted.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#78
Let's be real. Of course, everyone decent in health care would provide services to the injured.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#144
I doubt if most states have the ability to monitor and enforce it. Feds do. Plus --
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#145
How do you freely move among plans unless you are allowed exchange access?
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#179
Employer health plans have to meet new federal standards. Small businesses can buy from exchanges.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#196
Add this to the long list of other right-wing, corporate, and neocon policies
woo me with science
Jun 2012
#219
Pro, explain in your own words why you support the only Mandate on Earth to purchase for profit
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#149
The mandate is going to create pressure from the Middle Class demanding Long-Term Care coverage. nt
patrice
Jun 2012
#172
It doesn't matter who wants it or not. The present system cannot sustain for any length
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#102
"The Wealthcare and Profit Protection Act is designed to prop up and perpetuate the insurance cartel
woo me with science
Jun 2012
#220
We can sell it to the red states much more easily when we can point to successes in blue states.
jeff47
Jun 2012
#43
How can your idea of "real change" pass the Congress TODAY? You don't live in REALITY.
RBInMaine
Jun 2012
#154
I agree, that is the true devastation that Obamacare will leave (regardless of the SC decision)
stockholmer
Jun 2012
#42
I am not singling out Democrats, just pointing out both sides dance to the oligarch's tune, albeit
stockholmer
Jun 2012
#58
a REAL FDR-style jobs/protect Social Secuity-Medicare/rebuild USA/end the banks grip/fair tax Plan
stockholmer
Jun 2012
#50
"fast track" is an absolutely HUGE assumption. & Have you ever heard of taking someone's game
patrice
Jun 2012
#166
Well, first of all, most folks who don't have health insurance can't afford to have it.
MadHound
Jun 2012
#45
Yeah, it's too bad there wasn't any price-support mechanism in the ACA....oh wait, there was (nt)
jeff47
Jun 2012
#46
The amount of time it takes depends upon the size & composition of the pools. As demand for higher
patrice
Jun 2012
#164
The big for profit "health" insurance corporations will eat up the small ones as that industry
Uncle Joe
Jun 2012
#189
The MLR is on the premium dollar, not on the costs of services. It will force prices down.
patrice
Jun 2012
#190
And do you really feel good about the fact that only some will get fair subsidies?
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#152
I wish I could remember where I saw it. If it helps, it stated that Obama was 'encouraged to
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#120
Pro sincerely believes (for some reason) that all the R's are correct AS LONG AS the POTUS agrees
Dragonfli
Jun 2012
#70
Obama is a temporary inconvenience, at most only four more years, on the other hand
Uncle Joe
Jun 2012
#22
I agree with you, Uncle Joe. This Court cannot strike down anything that benefits the Corporations.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#124
Nixon signed into law the creation of the EPA. Should we abolish this Republican program?
Freddie Stubbs
Jun 2012
#31
Rec'd, most Americans want single payer/universal health care, not for-profit hell
just1voice
Jun 2012
#55
The amicus briefs to the SCOTUS to shoot down the law tell you which side is REALLY right wing.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#63
That's dubious at best. The Heritage Foundations Health guy denies ever supporting it.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#66
One is a penalty for not doing something. The other is a reward for doing something.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#73
Butler's clearly stated intention was to fine people who failed to insure themselves
Maven
Jun 2012
#79
The "penalty" is not being able to have a tax credit! By law they don't get a tax credit!
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#80
I disagree. I've seen the points originate from guys like Timothy P Carney and Avik Roy.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#92
Fascinating. The new Consumer Protection Agency needs to look in to that shit.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#121
As Krugman pointed out, Obama fed the right wing meme with his Harry and Louise ads.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#126
BTW, I have made it clear to you on several occasions that PARTISANSHIP is what we need.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#130
No damn wonder this was trashed re: 'Butler's clearly stated intention was to fine people
clang1
Jun 2012
#131
I fully support the mandate. It's usu. young, healthy people who don't buy ins.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#75
And certainly don't lay down with one, it'll eat your face! There are plenty of differences,
lonestarnot
Jun 2012
#76
The way to make it better would be to have the feds DICTATE a single comprehensive
eridani
Jun 2012
#205
Many nations employ a mandate for health insurance, yet not one of them allows profit from
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#157
I will be glad to discuss if you refrain from putting words into my mouth.
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#159
Rhett, it is very different from the SS tax. That goes into a public fund for the people.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#181
You know, I may have been wrong on this. I think I am beginning to see some light.
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#188
You make a good point, which is often over-looked, that the mandate covers a relatively
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#209
So, what do you think of a little thing called The Constitution, which was proposed by WEALTHY
patrice
Jun 2012
#193
The point was that the mandate should be rejected because it was proposed by the Heritage Fndtn.
patrice
Jun 2012
#198
Wow that's quite a bit to absorb in one sitting. I am thinking the mandate isnt such a good idea.
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#201
The 'mandate' of course should be an entirely government-run health system
Rosa Luxemburg
Jun 2012
#96
"Do liberals really believe...whether liberals want to admit it or not". So you're not a liberal?
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2012
#140
You know, though how things APPEAR does depend upon how you look at them, that doesn't make
patrice
Jun 2012
#192
You are wrong. When an uninsured person goes to the ER, they must be treated with or without
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#214
"I would prefer single payer' they all say. Why? Few actual single payer programs exist while
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#158
would definitely be ironic to have the SC support the mandate. the joke's on us.
StarryNight
Jun 2012
#147
Here is where you are off base: First, low income folks get a SUBSIDY to pay their premiums, and
RBInMaine
Jun 2012
#153
Isn't the other thing about the pools, not just downward pressure on premiums, but also upward
patrice
Jun 2012
#165
But before those funds get to the poor, they now pass through the hands of the Middle Men
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#183
I think you and others like you have a kind of naive idea of what threats accomplish. You help those
patrice
Jun 2012
#169
Defending the constitutionality of the individual mandate is not defending
Bolo Boffin
Jun 2012
#185
The ACA is good. The mandate is not. Still, I'm reccing this because I HATE the fucking mandate.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#223
Your argument appears to me to be largely based on buzzwords in the form of labels.
ZombieHorde
Jun 2012
#225
I don't normally rec political posts any more but this one is so clear, bright and linear...
Fumesucker
Jun 2012
#227