"We warned the president -- don't ever, ever agree with the Republicans,"

[ProSense]

53. Interesting

The repeal of Glass-Steagall, NAFTA, and the horrid Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 (again all passed under a Democratic President) are also perfect examples of the dialectical nature of further oligarch power usurpation, regardless of who is in control. These massive bills all laid the foundations for the financial consolidation by the global bankster networks and an accelerated stripping away of economic and social gains from the populace at large.

From your current comment above, to this from your previous comment:

I agree, that is the true devastation that Obamacare will leave (regardless of the SC decision)

The USA has to remove the profit motive from BOTH health care and education. Obamacare was at its heart a further entrenchment of the oligarchs latching on to a huge pool of capital. Combine this with the debt enslavement that marches on in the form of exploding student loan debt and you have a picture perfect 2-pronged example of corporate fascism.

Government being used as the whip-hand for the largest private financial controllers on the planet. It is the utter perversion of a mixed economy that works so well (and is now under all-out assault in countries such as Germany and here in Sweden).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=855044

...you appear to be rewriting history specifically to condemn Democrats. I mean, Clinton made huge mistakes, but the horrors of the 2000s occurred on Bush's watch. A Democratic President (for example, Gore) would not have simply enable destruction of the economy upon seeing the effects. There is evidence to support such a claim, as Democrats tried to take action in the early 2000s to prevent the 2007 outcome (not that they specifically knew the severity, but Enron was a huge clue).

Also, you say, "I agree, that is the true devastation that Obamacare will leave (regardless of the SC decision)," but look at the comment to which you responded:

Yes, because that happened when Clinton's health care reforms were shot down. That's why we have single payer now.

....oh wait, that didn't happen.

If the ACA goes down, Democrats won't touch the subject for another decade. And there's no way in hell Republicans would bring about single payer.

What "devastation" are you referring to? The "debacle" relates to the law being struck down, not if it's upheld.

Most people don't see adding 16 million to Medicaid, banning the practice of dropping people because of a pre-existing condition, free preventive care for seniors and the other benefits of the health care law as "devastation."