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politicat

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12. It makes us question ourselves a lot.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:43 PM
Jan 2017

Because we see it, and so we spend a lot of time reality checking for each other. We can be gaslit, too, after all. The hardest part has been recognizing there is consensus within the community (one of my teaching peers is actually using the circling shark debate video to train grad students) but not being able to take it public, then watching the public and the media fall for all of the classic traps and gaslighting.

The good news is that narcissists are more alike than different. They're highly predictable, in a general way. And denying them attention while enforcing boundaries is a functional strategy. The only one, as it happens. But to make it work requires a massive proportion of the population to sign on to ignore the antics, isolate the offender and enforce boundaries.

But with this? Now we can start doing Narcissist Survival 101 seminars.

I'm so sorry regarding your (hopefully) STBX. I can't imagine marrying one -- I grew up with two of them (different varieties, and fortunately, they were each other's primary source of supply). They are like being through the looking glass. (Disordered parents -- the reason most shrinks are shrinks!)

Seriously -- do your self-care, at the very minimum. You and we need you as recovered as possible, so if Il Douche is triggering, mute his tangerine ass and work the trigger. It's not weak -- it's a form of resistance to refuse to play his game.

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Wikipedia entry. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #1
Ouch!! bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #19
So... the developmental view of Cluster B is a fault around age 3. politicat Jan 2017 #26
yep starshine00 Jan 2017 #29
that pretty much was his campaign They_Live Jan 2017 #34
Right. Neither NPD nor the malignant version can be treated with drugs. pnwmom Jan 2017 #2
I doubt Dr Gartner made that distinction. That reads like a reporter's interpretation. politicat Jan 2017 #3
I don't blame professionals who are not making this diagnosis. pnwmom Jan 2017 #4
Thanks. politicat Jan 2017 #11
My son's psychiatrist showed me the journal Ilsa Jan 2017 #13
So how does this type usually Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #7
... They tend to try, yeah. politicat Jan 2017 #9
I have had a few garden variety narcissists in my life. pnwmom Jan 2017 #16
This is so interesting... Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #17
If I worked for theSecret Service, I would... 3catwoman3 Jan 2017 #35
They destroy everything in their path NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #23
It must drive every mental health care professional Control-Z Jan 2017 #10
It makes us question ourselves a lot. politicat Jan 2017 #12
Malignant narcissism defined BainsBane Jan 2017 #5
The Trump "movement" is a political cult NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #6
Can we kick this to high Olympus, please?!1 UTUSN Jan 2017 #8
K&R... spanone Jan 2017 #14
Oh my god is it metastasizing?? grantcart Jan 2017 #15
I laughed! Thank you! politicat Jan 2017 #18
Shit - you too? calimary Jan 2017 #28
Oh, yeah. I want root-rooter to come out and drill my face. politicat Jan 2017 #40
That's what I thought and have posted about it a few times. Here's one thread I did KewlKat Jan 2017 #20
Yes. And I've been really happy to see them. politicat Jan 2017 #21
I am bookmarking this Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #24
I'm just going to leave this here... Hugin Jan 2017 #22
This video analysis about Trump is spot on NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #25
Oh, him. politicat Jan 2017 #30
It should not be surprising that he's manipulative...he is about as severe a narcissist as they come NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #31
If he could watch over... 3catwoman3 Jan 2017 #37
I called this months ago starshine00 Jan 2017 #27
The funny thing is? Sociopaths can be easier to deal with because they understand rules. politicat Jan 2017 #33
the spectrum of sociopathy is very wide starshine00 Jan 2017 #38
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #32
When Trump said "Lock her up", he was referring to himself. He belongs in prison. dalton99a Jan 2017 #36
Rep Tim Murphy is a practicing psychologist DeminPennswoods Jan 2017 #39
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