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humbled_opinion

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58. but you never address the underlying problem

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 06:29 PM

Jun 2012

COST !!! How do you control the cost? Single payer doesn't solve it...

If you are doing nothing more than paying the inefficient government the same as you pay the ripoff insurance companies where is the benefit?

No my friend the only way to FIX the problems in healthcare is to nationalize it completely, doctors, hospitals, staffs all work for the government on a government pay scale and the governmnet controls the COST... No more overpriced doctors, hospitals etc...

The people pay according to their ability to pay and if that means they can't pay then that is just fine the government can charge the rich people more for their treatment to subsidize and offset the treatment of the poor.

As long as we continue to allow medicine to be privatized we will all suffer the free market principle of GREED.....

Personally I think Cuba has it right.....

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Most Americans oppose health law but like provisions [View all] NNN0LHI Jun 2012 OP

Yeah. Shadowflash Jun 2012 #1

I asked... humbled_opinion Jun 2012 #41

Democrat Leadership Skittles Jun 2012 #52

I think this is a big lie pushed by the RW and the media. Who are they asking in these polls. nanabugg Jun 2012 #2

Ding ding ding ding : big lie pushed by the RW and the media clang1 Jun 2012 #49

Makes perfect sense BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #3

Even Romney likes the provisions high density Jun 2012 #4

Yeah, what we really want is single payer, reform that will really cut costs. Open the door SCOTUS, mother earth Jun 2012 #5

Cut the insurance completely out of health care. byeya Jun 2012 #6

+1 nt Xipe Totec Jun 2012 #8

We don't need the middle men - TBF Jun 2012 #10

Interesting but humbled_opinion Jun 2012 #42

What are you talking about? TBF Jun 2012 #43

Sorry maybe you didn't understand me.... humbled_opinion Jun 2012 #44

Why would you assume I would pay less with a high income TBF Jun 2012 #46

No I certainly understand your position humbled_opinion Jun 2012 #56

We've got two issues going - TBF Jun 2012 #57

but you never address the underlying problem humbled_opinion Jun 2012 #58

OK, I was totally reading your TBF Jun 2012 #59

Yep Yep Yep.... humbled_opinion Jun 2012 #61

Who processes the Medicare claims in your state for the Social Security Administration? NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #11

That corrupt SCOTUS gotta GOTUS. nt valerief Jun 2012 #28

America, land of the idiots... polichick Jun 2012 #7

LOL Agreed n/t newfie11 Jun 2012 #13

They think THEY deserve the services, but some "others" don't. nt raccoon Jun 2012 #16

Hit that nail right on the head. SoutherDem Jun 2012 #24

Yep - idiots. polichick Jun 2012 #36

We all want something for nothing. nt NickB79 Jun 2012 #55

Rachel Maddow said it best Canuckistanian Jun 2012 #9

Rachael always gets it right and in language Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #19

most Americans haven't taken onethatcares Jun 2012 #12

This includes the "liberal" media SoutherDem Jun 2012 #27

what's not to like?? handmade34 Jun 2012 #14

The new health care law will: -Ensure that all Americans have access to quality, affordable health c dflprincess Jun 2012 #62

In the real world, people who oppose the ACA don't have a clue what it is. tridim Jun 2012 #15

A different poll I read showed that most Americans want to keep the law.... marmar Jun 2012 #17

This situation exists due to the negligence of the major media sources to accurately inform. olegramps Jun 2012 #18

Agreed 100%. Where's the seperation of church and state and why do they still get a tax exemption? Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #22

MAJOR discrepancy from the story: "Sixty-one percent of Americans are against the mandate." Romulox Jun 2012 #20

BUT just like the rest of the law I doubt they know what the mandate means to them SoutherDem Jun 2012 #32

Come on. It means they are FORCED to buy insurance from the same group that's been ripping them off Romulox Jun 2012 #34

Ok, we know you hate the mandate SoutherDem Jun 2012 #38

It was trick that WRENCHED the debate to the far right. Now we are arguing about how much guaranteed Romulox Jun 2012 #39

Most Americans are brainwashed morons nobodyspecial Jun 2012 #21

This has been driving me crazy since ACA passed. SoutherDem Jun 2012 #23

Forcing people to buy the ones who are ripping them off seems a poor solution though... Romulox Jun 2012 #26

But try telling that to someone with rocks for brains. kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #29

They figured it out, this time: ""Sixty-one percent of Americans are against the mandate." nt Romulox Jun 2012 #30

The mandate has worked in Massachusetts. LiberalCatholic Jun 2012 #47

"In fact the state (Mass.) has the highest individual market premiums in the country," Romulox Jun 2012 #48

It's the individual mandate Bradical79 Jun 2012 #25

Obama didn't used to like the individual mandate either. dkf Jun 2012 #31

Since the 1990s, at least eight states have overhauled their insurance laws NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #35

Not necessarily true. dkf Jun 2012 #37

The argument that the poor insurance companies wouldn't be able to make it is not a selling point TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #40

The majority are not opposed to the health care law............ Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #33

Yep. I'd like to see the results of a survey savalez Jun 2012 #50

Oh It Might Require Readin' and Writin' YOHABLO Jun 2012 #45

It's not about the law. it's NEVER been about the law Scootaloo Jun 2012 #51

It's all how they sell it. Just like "liberal policy", people will say they are conservative AllyCat Jun 2012 #53

American's are an ignorant bunch when it come to the ACA BEAU1943 Jun 2012 #54

No shit, they want the cake and want to eat it too. joshcryer Jun 2012 #60