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In reply to the discussion: "We warned the president -- don't ever, ever agree with the Republicans," [View all]
treestar
(82,383 posts)91. As usual, the right wing lies
And the left just helps them.
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"We warned the president -- don't ever, ever agree with the Republicans," [View all]
MadHound
Jun 2012
OP
they never even talked about the real solution- remove the middle man insurance company
Ghost of Huey Long
Jun 2012
#2
Wendell Potter is an all-American hero! He really is because he was the first to bring
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2012
#24
and who will pay for it. Social Security and Medicare are paid for by us. It is mandatory, and in
still_one
Jun 2012
#155
most people have jobs, where the money can and will be taken from paychecks, tax refunds etc.
Ghost of Huey Long
Jun 2012
#208
oh jesus. is all this because he's a bitter and jaded smoove johnny supporter?
dionysus
Jun 2012
#97
In theory, the individual mandate makes sense. I support a public option, at the very least.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2012
#26
All other nations which mandate the purchase of health insurance make it illegal to profit from
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#148
I think a lot of liberals supported mandate, especially to get something of value enacted.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#78
Let's be real. Of course, everyone decent in health care would provide services to the injured.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#144
I doubt if most states have the ability to monitor and enforce it. Feds do. Plus --
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#145
How do you freely move among plans unless you are allowed exchange access?
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#179
Employer health plans have to meet new federal standards. Small businesses can buy from exchanges.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#196
Add this to the long list of other right-wing, corporate, and neocon policies
woo me with science
Jun 2012
#219
Pro, explain in your own words why you support the only Mandate on Earth to purchase for profit
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#149
The mandate is going to create pressure from the Middle Class demanding Long-Term Care coverage. nt
patrice
Jun 2012
#172
It doesn't matter who wants it or not. The present system cannot sustain for any length
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#102
"The Wealthcare and Profit Protection Act is designed to prop up and perpetuate the insurance cartel
woo me with science
Jun 2012
#220
We can sell it to the red states much more easily when we can point to successes in blue states.
jeff47
Jun 2012
#43
How can your idea of "real change" pass the Congress TODAY? You don't live in REALITY.
RBInMaine
Jun 2012
#154
I agree, that is the true devastation that Obamacare will leave (regardless of the SC decision)
stockholmer
Jun 2012
#42
I am not singling out Democrats, just pointing out both sides dance to the oligarch's tune, albeit
stockholmer
Jun 2012
#58
a REAL FDR-style jobs/protect Social Secuity-Medicare/rebuild USA/end the banks grip/fair tax Plan
stockholmer
Jun 2012
#50
"fast track" is an absolutely HUGE assumption. & Have you ever heard of taking someone's game
patrice
Jun 2012
#166
Well, first of all, most folks who don't have health insurance can't afford to have it.
MadHound
Jun 2012
#45
Yeah, it's too bad there wasn't any price-support mechanism in the ACA....oh wait, there was (nt)
jeff47
Jun 2012
#46
The amount of time it takes depends upon the size & composition of the pools. As demand for higher
patrice
Jun 2012
#164
The big for profit "health" insurance corporations will eat up the small ones as that industry
Uncle Joe
Jun 2012
#189
The MLR is on the premium dollar, not on the costs of services. It will force prices down.
patrice
Jun 2012
#190
And do you really feel good about the fact that only some will get fair subsidies?
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#152
I wish I could remember where I saw it. If it helps, it stated that Obama was 'encouraged to
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#120
Pro sincerely believes (for some reason) that all the R's are correct AS LONG AS the POTUS agrees
Dragonfli
Jun 2012
#70
Obama is a temporary inconvenience, at most only four more years, on the other hand
Uncle Joe
Jun 2012
#22
I agree with you, Uncle Joe. This Court cannot strike down anything that benefits the Corporations.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#124
Nixon signed into law the creation of the EPA. Should we abolish this Republican program?
Freddie Stubbs
Jun 2012
#31
Rec'd, most Americans want single payer/universal health care, not for-profit hell
just1voice
Jun 2012
#55
The amicus briefs to the SCOTUS to shoot down the law tell you which side is REALLY right wing.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#63
That's dubious at best. The Heritage Foundations Health guy denies ever supporting it.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#66
One is a penalty for not doing something. The other is a reward for doing something.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#73
Butler's clearly stated intention was to fine people who failed to insure themselves
Maven
Jun 2012
#79
The "penalty" is not being able to have a tax credit! By law they don't get a tax credit!
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#80
I disagree. I've seen the points originate from guys like Timothy P Carney and Avik Roy.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#92
Fascinating. The new Consumer Protection Agency needs to look in to that shit.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#121
As Krugman pointed out, Obama fed the right wing meme with his Harry and Louise ads.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#126
BTW, I have made it clear to you on several occasions that PARTISANSHIP is what we need.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#130
No damn wonder this was trashed re: 'Butler's clearly stated intention was to fine people
clang1
Jun 2012
#131
I fully support the mandate. It's usu. young, healthy people who don't buy ins.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#75
And certainly don't lay down with one, it'll eat your face! There are plenty of differences,
lonestarnot
Jun 2012
#76
The way to make it better would be to have the feds DICTATE a single comprehensive
eridani
Jun 2012
#205
Many nations employ a mandate for health insurance, yet not one of them allows profit from
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#157
I will be glad to discuss if you refrain from putting words into my mouth.
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#159
Rhett, it is very different from the SS tax. That goes into a public fund for the people.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#181
You know, I may have been wrong on this. I think I am beginning to see some light.
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#188
You make a good point, which is often over-looked, that the mandate covers a relatively
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#209
So, what do you think of a little thing called The Constitution, which was proposed by WEALTHY
patrice
Jun 2012
#193
The point was that the mandate should be rejected because it was proposed by the Heritage Fndtn.
patrice
Jun 2012
#198
Wow that's quite a bit to absorb in one sitting. I am thinking the mandate isnt such a good idea.
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#201
The 'mandate' of course should be an entirely government-run health system
Rosa Luxemburg
Jun 2012
#96
"Do liberals really believe...whether liberals want to admit it or not". So you're not a liberal?
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2012
#140
You know, though how things APPEAR does depend upon how you look at them, that doesn't make
patrice
Jun 2012
#192
You are wrong. When an uninsured person goes to the ER, they must be treated with or without
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#214
"I would prefer single payer' they all say. Why? Few actual single payer programs exist while
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#158
would definitely be ironic to have the SC support the mandate. the joke's on us.
StarryNight
Jun 2012
#147
Here is where you are off base: First, low income folks get a SUBSIDY to pay their premiums, and
RBInMaine
Jun 2012
#153
Isn't the other thing about the pools, not just downward pressure on premiums, but also upward
patrice
Jun 2012
#165
But before those funds get to the poor, they now pass through the hands of the Middle Men
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#183
I think you and others like you have a kind of naive idea of what threats accomplish. You help those
patrice
Jun 2012
#169
Defending the constitutionality of the individual mandate is not defending
Bolo Boffin
Jun 2012
#185
The ACA is good. The mandate is not. Still, I'm reccing this because I HATE the fucking mandate.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#223
Your argument appears to me to be largely based on buzzwords in the form of labels.
ZombieHorde
Jun 2012
#225
I don't normally rec political posts any more but this one is so clear, bright and linear...
Fumesucker
Jun 2012
#227