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19. But they do follow the teachings of Jesus that aver that any person

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:11 AM

Feb 2017

who does not confess him as their lord and savior is destined to an eternity in hell. They do follow the teachings of Jesus where he said explicitly that the law of the OT would remain fully in force until his second coming (and which gives modern-day Xians all the excuse they need to hate on everyone from women to gays). They do follow Jesus teaching to love him more than their immediate family (in fact, Jesus said that unless you hate your immediate family you cannot love him). They take to heart Jesus' words that he brings not peace but a sword that will divide families.

Hate to disagree with you, but these hateful Xians ARE following the words of Jesus, who was a very hateful personage in the fiction of the Bible. The fact that most people ignore or downplay or explain away the hateful shit spoken by Jesus doesn't change the fact that he said these things.

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Is anyone terrified by the large amount of people who want America to become a Christian Theocracy ? [View all] SamKnause Feb 2017 OP

I haven't seen a lot of this yet... Blanks Feb 2017 #1

I spent some time looking into Bannon onlyadream Feb 2017 #163

Yep. He wants to destroy our government IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #164

that is why they bdamomma Feb 2017 #2

Sadly, I am very aware. SamKnause Feb 2017 #17

so we have the bdamomma Feb 2017 #26

It needs to be stopped, I agree. SamKnause Feb 2017 #30

You are right and no I don''t think it can be stopped. old guy Feb 2017 #46

Yes we do atreides1 Feb 2017 #121

You can thank the whole range of private colleges for this, not state. ancianita Feb 2017 #152

A non-believer here, but what poetic justice if Trump ended up being the anti-Christ & CrispyQ Feb 2017 #176

We can start our own charter schools. notdarkyet Feb 2017 #72

Jerry Falwell Jr. to head a federal task force on Department of Education policy. CrispyQ Feb 2017 #119

This is the most serious problem that will normalize 'theocratic creep' in the economy. ancianita Feb 2017 #171

not terrified, but concerned vlyons Feb 2017 #3

Amen IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #11

But they do follow the teachings of Jesus that aver that any person stopbush Feb 2017 #19

Those were not the teachings of Jesus vlyons Feb 2017 #35

Wrong. Those were the words and teachings of Jesus. stopbush Feb 2017 #47

nope vlyons Feb 2017 #59

Let's face it. Ligyron Feb 2017 #84

+1 n/t. okieinpain Feb 2017 #90

Well, of course you're correct, because Jesus never really existed. stopbush Feb 2017 #107

The Gospels are NOT based on Paul. There are based on "Q". Bohunk68 Feb 2017 #150

Matthew and Luke are based on Mark. Mark is a religious allegory, not a history. stopbush Feb 2017 #165

In case you haven't heard of him.... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2017 #167

Yes, I've watched his videos. He presents the lack of evidence for Jesus stopbush Feb 2017 #169

Yup. Interesting guy. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2017 #170

"Some" scholars. Bohunk68 Feb 2017 #178

See here for a start: stopbush Feb 2017 #179

Using Wikipedia, a website that can be changed at any time Bohunk68 Feb 2017 #184

Bashing a reference to Wikipedia is a cheap dodge. stopbush Feb 2017 #185

As I said above, I'm a Buddhist vlyons Feb 2017 #166

You come across as not being very knowledgeable of those times. Bohunk68 Feb 2017 #149

You are talking facts Lithos Feb 2017 #52

And their adherents think that their brand of Christianity TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #123

Yes, I think so too onlyadream Feb 2017 #160

they certainty do not bdamomma Feb 2017 #27

Where are you from, bdamomma? True Dough Feb 2017 #55

Following Buddhism myself I get scared about them eventually turning their hate Doreen Feb 2017 #75

I am Buddhist as well... yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #147

Yes, it terrifies me Sanity Claws Feb 2017 #4

They are not even thinking about how this country came about treestar Feb 2017 #5

It doesn't really matter to them 2naSalit Feb 2017 #28

They don't care how the country came about. Mariana Feb 2017 #112

Irony... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #6

This is what they are bdamomma Feb 2017 #31

Yes. They want global war with Islam because they see it as manifest destiny IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #42

Yes! burrowowl Feb 2017 #134

Nor is there any implication of... Xolodno Feb 2017 #118

As a non-believer, yes I am getting there Freethinker65 Feb 2017 #7

Yes. The idea that the lives of real people would be governed by the make believe stopbush Feb 2017 #8

YES! And the people pushing for this are among the most un-christian people on the planet!! Siwsan Feb 2017 #9

Exactly! And what really pisses me off are those "religous freedom" bills. Initech Feb 2017 #101

Give them time, and the various "christian" factions will start fighting with each other Siwsan Feb 2017 #106

Its because they think Jesus is Solomon Feb 2017 #10

What color is Jesus? --- It depends on whose living room wall his picture is hanging. keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #63

I always love that question because it allows me to laugh at the fundamentalist Christians. Doreen Feb 2017 #81

What did Jesus look like? keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #115

Been concerned for a while... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #12

We do NOT need an American Taliban. Dominionists MUST be stopped. n/t CousinIT Feb 2017 #13

My mother is one of them.... alittlelark Feb 2017 #14

Yep. I've Been Worried SDJay Feb 2017 #15

Exactly what I have been warning people about. snort Feb 2017 #105

I would clarify this way: a white Christian theocracy etherealtruth Feb 2017 #16

They think Christian Theocracy is a good thing, because it's got Christian in it. dalton99a Feb 2017 #18

I'm more terrified of the American dominionists than I am of any terrorist group. Initech Feb 2017 #20

They are the greatest threat this country and the world faces !!!!!!!!! SamKnause Feb 2017 #22

Amen to that! Initech Feb 2017 #29

It's a suicide pact HAB911 Feb 2017 #21

I think it's time that we start breaking down the Christian ideologies because Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #23

Betsy DeVos is a strict Calvinist, Dutch Reformed Church. longship Feb 2017 #67

And because we are mixing religion with government, her religious beliefs are an open door. Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #69

They should have asked her about that during the hearings homey. Ligyron Feb 2017 #88

But they didn't, and you know why? Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #94

I don't think the self-selecting people who call C-SPAN represent a "large amount" of anything brooklynite Feb 2017 #24

It is not just those who call into C-SPAN. SamKnause Feb 2017 #25

"Christian religion in our public schools, in our federal government, and written into law." DK504 Feb 2017 #66

Always have been Soxfan58 Feb 2017 #32

Sounds like Sharia Law heather blossom Feb 2017 #33

The Founding Fathers bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #34

Not terrified, because the Dominionists and their like . . . MrModerate Feb 2017 #36

I disagree with your assessment. SamKnause Feb 2017 #44

Trump is an anomaly and if we survive his presidency . . . MrModerate Feb 2017 #181

An authoritarian, anti-democratic, sociopath Progressive dog Feb 2017 #37

Radical Christian Nationalists bhikkhu Feb 2017 #38

They aren't real Christians. They are fake ones cpamomfromtexas Feb 2017 #39

As a lesbian, I'm terrified and have seriously started looking into political asylum justiceischeap Feb 2017 #40

I'm not afraid. Fear is the mind killer. Iggo Feb 2017 #41

Revealing their hypocrisy They_Live Feb 2017 #43

Yes. But, more terrified by the clueless, ignorant ones. GoCubsGo Feb 2017 #45

Yes. logosoco Feb 2017 #48

I don't think there's that many of them. ananda Feb 2017 #49

You bet DownriverDem Feb 2017 #50

YES. n/t sagesnow Feb 2017 #51

I think if u examine ,,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2017 #53

It's plain wrong and unconstitutional. liberalnarb Feb 2017 #54

I have given up on this current version of society. Moostache Feb 2017 #56

Beautifully Stated! IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #168

Which version of Christianity? keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #57

Well, sure, but it's been this way for decades Orrex Feb 2017 #58

There is an org you can support that has been fighting this a long time: spooky3 Feb 2017 #60

Axiomatically, such opinions damage the religion that embrace them. byronius Feb 2017 #61

I am a Christian and the answer is YES. And what they call Christian today appleannie1943 Feb 2017 #62

+1000 hamsterjill Feb 2017 #70

Amen. dawg Feb 2017 #87

It's not a large amount of people. eggplant Feb 2017 #64

yes, good point, but those rich powerful fuckers still scare the shit out of me Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #74

As they should. They are really fucking scary, and they have a really fucking scary agenda, too. eggplant Feb 2017 #108

and her mother is a total religious freak Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #114

No, it's not & their agenda will never fly with majority of Americans whathehell Feb 2017 #82

Nutcases I can deal with. Filthy rich nutcases can do some terrible damage. eggplant Feb 2017 #109

We've still got separation of church & state, whathehell Feb 2017 #111

Clearly, you've never been in West Michigan. eggplant Feb 2017 #117

Actually, I have been there.. whathehell Feb 2017 #120

Not so much, no. eggplant Feb 2017 #172

Please, please, please: people come in numbers, not amounts. betsuni Feb 2017 #65

The goddamned American Christian TALIBAN. BigDemVoter Feb 2017 #68

As a Jew, I am very concerned about this Gothmog Feb 2017 #71

Terrified, and my sister is one of them Qanisqineq Feb 2017 #73

Ever ask one of those people to define what "hypocrisy" is? Tikki Feb 2017 #76

And there would be nothing Christian about this Christian Theocracy ck4829 Feb 2017 #77

The terror is not so much in their numbers bigbrother05 Feb 2017 #78

I've seen this growing for years hurple Feb 2017 #79

look into Sojourners if you are a Christian northoftheborder Feb 2017 #80

Yes.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2017 #83

Don't worry, if/when President Trump is impeached everything will be alright! YoungDemCA Feb 2017 #85

What we have now is a White Nationalist Christian Theocracy. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #86

Well, once they declare their theocracy Bettie Feb 2017 #89

I think they are very loud - and they did the work of getting loud people in place, when liberals ehrnst Feb 2017 #91

It is terrifying Johnny2X2X Feb 2017 #92

have been since the 80's elmac Feb 2017 #93

I'm a Christian (but a different sort) and I find the Christofacists intensely frightening. hamsterjill Feb 2017 #95

I have been VERY concerned BlueMTexpat Feb 2017 #96

great post and needs to be discussed more. okieinpain Feb 2017 #97

Thank you. SamKnause Feb 2017 #98

Kristin Lems-Days of the Theocracy niyad Feb 2017 #99

Thank you so much for the video and lyrics. SamKnause Feb 2017 #102

you are most welcome. have been listening to Kristin for many years. niyad Feb 2017 #103

I don't see it happening. Ligyron Feb 2017 #100

IF YOU ARE NOT, YOU SHOULD BE. starshine00 Feb 2017 #104

they want to "make America great" again Skittles Feb 2017 #110

Top of my list of scary things. FiveGoodMen Feb 2017 #113

Not really Dem2 Feb 2017 #116

A very large majority who call themselves Christian are not aware of dae Feb 2017 #122

Yes. Rex Feb 2017 #124

What probably bugs me most is when the media refers to this shit as "religious freedom" progree Feb 2017 #125

Let's just be honest IndianaDave Feb 2017 #145

Fundamentally at odds with the Gospels? plimsoll Feb 2017 #126

The Republicans always lose when they support religious social issues too strongly MrPurple Feb 2017 #127

Yes. Their version of Christianity is certainly different from mine. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #128

And of any other true Christian. tenorly Feb 2017 #132

Yes. Terrified. zentrum Feb 2017 #129

American Taliban CanonRay Feb 2017 #130

my late mom was warning about this a long time ago. AllaN01Bear Feb 2017 #131

They don't even know what the word "theocracy" means Mountain Mule Feb 2017 #133

They should go to Swaziland milestogo Feb 2017 #135

I don't want to live in a theocracy. Fuck theocracies. Initech Feb 2017 #136

This is not new! IndianaDave Feb 2017 #137

I am very aware this is not new. SamKnause Feb 2017 #138

Yep - I'm deeply concerned IndianaDave Feb 2017 #139

Thank you so much for your input Dave. SamKnause Feb 2017 #141

Happy to be involved, Sam. Great post! IndianaDave Feb 2017 #143

It is terrifying. These people are no different than Islamic Extremist. YOHABLO Feb 2017 #140

Exactly !!!!..... SamKnause Feb 2017 #142

Oh, hell, yes! It's why I DON'T want [Redacted] impeached and removed! n/t TygrBright Feb 2017 #144

I am a Buddhist... yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #146

I am an Atheist, so I guess I will be on their list. SamKnause Feb 2017 #148

Alarmed for a time, but not terrified. Maybe you should lay out what a theocratic state does. ancianita Feb 2017 #151

Thank you for your input. SamKnause Feb 2017 #154

Maybe they'll learn once they send their sons to one of Drumpf's holy wars... Crowman2009 Feb 2017 #153

I hope it doesn't come to that. SamKnause Feb 2017 #155

I've been saying this for a year, nobody listens except my Jewish friends who are terrified. NotThisTime Feb 2017 #156

It has definitely gotten worse since Trump jumped into the political arena. SamKnause Feb 2017 #159

Drumpf at Prayer Breakfast invoking gawd to help his admin wordpix Feb 2017 #157

Proof that God does not exist. SamKnause Feb 2017 #161

This is what Bannon wants onlyadream Feb 2017 #158

I am aware and that is what makes it so frightening. SamKnause Feb 2017 #162

I've been warning about dominunism for a long time workinclasszero Feb 2017 #173

My warnings were dismissed or laughed at. SamKnause Feb 2017 #174

Yup. Same here workinclasszero Feb 2017 #175

The best way to fight this is to sew dissent ion among rwheeler31 Feb 2017 #177

I honestly think all religions are destined to decline into obscurity. Bonx Feb 2017 #180

No. That number hasn't changed. Orsino Feb 2017 #182

I'm an atheist FlyByNight Feb 2017 #183