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41. Saying HRC had baggage did not mean

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:43 PM

Feb 2017

that she wasn't a good or qualified candidate. It was facing 20 years of reality. If she were elected and the senate and house were repub, she would have been impeached, the investigations would have been non-stop. The repubs told everyone that from the begining. I think there were uninformed voters who believed the BS, but there were also people who knew it was BS but didn't want to see 4 more years of investigations. Those people stayed home.

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If anyone let anyone down, WE were the ones who let ourselves down, [View all] pnwmom Feb 2017 OP

I have to agree. cilla4progress Feb 2017 #1

Its hard to blame only the candidate citood Feb 2017 #2

OF COURSE jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #3

yes hillary failed us. she ran a terrible campaign okieinpain Feb 2017 #4

Bullshit. She was 9 points ahead when Comey dropped his first letter bomb. pnwmom Feb 2017 #7

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yeah that's all great about the 9 points but she okieinpain Feb 2017 #15

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She did not run a crappy campaign. JHan Feb 2017 #48

Hubris is what got her in 2008 too, fact is her staff was terrible Exultant Democracy Feb 2017 #66

Voter suppression. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #52

Exactly Obama's people knew they we playing with fire in those states too. Exultant Democracy Feb 2017 #65

She ran a great campaign in US but forgot to campaign in Russia. n/t delisen Feb 2017 #8

read please. okieinpain Feb 2017 #16

I have read that. Clinton's loss was due to Comey, Putin, voter suppression delisen Feb 2017 #25

Amen and Amen!!! uponit7771 Feb 2017 #60

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #64

Agreed...she had no ground game in the key states GumboYaYa Feb 2017 #12

+1 n/t. okieinpain Feb 2017 #17

+1 leftstreet Feb 2017 #23

It is irresponsible for anyone to be a candidate if they have a truckload of baggage loyalsister Feb 2017 #20

So Trump had no baggage? Other Dems had no baggage? LisaM Feb 2017 #29

Baggage is Bull Crap-Might as well ask Mitch McConnell who he wants us to run delisen Feb 2017 #32

All the candidates had "baggage." They had just as much as Hillary. Difference was she had a vagina Squinch Feb 2017 #36

I'm of the opinion Glamrock Feb 2017 #39

Saying HRC had baggage did not mean Merlot Feb 2017 #41

Donald Trump had a lot more than 20 years of a lot seedier, crazier reality. His likelihood of Squinch Feb 2017 #49

drumptf doens't have a political career Merlot Feb 2017 #50

Clearly you don't live in New York. His past is filthy and Hillary's doesn't hold a candle to it. Squinch Feb 2017 #51

OMG. People GAVE IN to the Republican lies and threats? yardwork Feb 2017 #59

And half of those accusations, and half of the talk of her "baggage" came from duped Democrats. Squinch Feb 2017 #43

Obviously that didn't prevent Trump from winning the White House. yardwork Feb 2017 #57

cozying up to big banks was a very bad idea loyalsister Feb 2017 #69

So how is it working out for you now? mcar Feb 2017 #79

Excuse me? loyalsister Feb 2017 #80

BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!!! COMEY, Voter Suppression and RUSSIA !! Fuck all the other bullshit FUD is tryi uponit7771 Feb 2017 #63

Comey was only able to do what he did because there was a kernal of truth to draw from loyalsister Feb 2017 #70

Red herring, there was no legally valid reason to investigate her in the first place... uponit7771 Feb 2017 #71

They both had more baggage than an airport crazycatlady Feb 2017 #72

Context matters loyalsister Feb 2017 #81

Gee, but the dark force is strong with this one. Jakes Progress Feb 2017 #75

How much work did you put into her campaign? Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #21

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Were mistakes made? Absolutely. Was it "terrible"...hardly. Were there self inflicted wounds... TrekLuver Feb 2017 #40

BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!!! COMEY, Voter Suppression and RUSSIA !! Fuck all the other bullshit FUD is tryi uponit7771 Feb 2017 #62

Keep making excuses for your own Jakes Progress Feb 2017 #74

Ridiculous, it is not time to blame the victims. Big Blue Marble Feb 2017 #5

yes this is true, but we can't give her a clean pass on this okieinpain Feb 2017 #18

I do not give her a pass. Big Blue Marble Feb 2017 #19

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Clean pass? We had a gutsy Sec of State who earned the wrath of a Dictator delisen Feb 2017 #45

Oh really? Idoru Feb 2017 #6

I meant we as in the general public. But you're right of course, pnwmom Feb 2017 #9

Then don't include me Idoru Feb 2017 #13

I included myself and millions of others who voted and worked for Hillary, pnwmom Feb 2017 #14

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You exist for me. I am totally aware that who I am has been shaped by delisen Feb 2017 #46

No. Don't blame me! old guy Feb 2017 #10

THIS....and we NEED TO OWN IT! The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #22

I voted for her. I don't blame myself for Orangeman being in the WH. nt raccoon Feb 2017 #24

This belongs in post-mortem which no longer exists. Unhelpful. Please delete. n/t seaglass Feb 2017 #27

The sad reality is that Democrats now have to have such a massive lead that cheating is implausible Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #28

Oh awesome... This again. moda253 Feb 2017 #31

Fuck that. I voted for her. This is NOT on me. Sell that shit somewhere else. Iggo Feb 2017 #35

This Merlot Feb 2017 #42

You're mostly right, but she is one of us and has her share of the blame, too. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #37

It was intentional. They wanted everyone to think she would win. Tatiana Feb 2017 #44

Posters on DU were only too happy to believe that narrative. LisaL Feb 2017 #47

Yes melman Feb 2017 #73

I accept no responsibility liquid diamond Feb 2017 #53

The entire planet thought she would win. Bookies were already paying out bets. Rex Feb 2017 #54

I thought it was incredibly stupid to pay out bets before knowing the outcome. LisaL Feb 2017 #58

Me too I mean WTF? Nobody can be that sure. Rex Feb 2017 #83

The BOB and Greenies also hurt a great deal Gothmog Feb 2017 #55

RUBBISH. GeorgeGist Feb 2017 #56

Comey, voter suppression And Russia... Empirical factors everything else is guessing uponit7771 Feb 2017 #61

We lost because of the OTHER AMERICA Mr. Ected Feb 2017 #67

No, thanks. SHE was the candidate. For WHATEVER reasons too many people chose otherwise. jmg257 Feb 2017 #68

Thank you! mcar Feb 2017 #76

We were polling pumped up........ Jim Beard Feb 2017 #77

She worked her ass off. Was ALWAYS prepared for every debate, ecstatic Feb 2017 #78

It is the candidate's fault if they lose. Fearless Feb 2017 #82