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arithia

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22. agreed!

Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:33 PM

Feb 2017

The mentally ill are far more likely to be hurt by others around them than they are to hurt others or even themselves. Police are often trained to consider them a threat based on the untrue stigma that they are violent. As a result, about half of all extrajudicial police killings (that we know of) are of the mentally ill and disabled.

Universal background checks would be far more reasonable than perpetuating this tired old bullsh*t. The article pointed out concern over mass shooters, with conservative estimates of mental health issues in around 20% of mass homicide perpetrators. Violence against women/children is a far more accurate predictor of mass shooters than a mental health diagnosis. 57% of mass shooters target family members or intimate partners with 60% of the victims being women and children.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-08-02/the-connection-between-violence-against-women-and-mass-shootings

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House Republicans Just Voted To Allow Severely Mentally Ill People To Buy Guns [View all] CousinIT Feb 2017 OP

Its because Donald wants to carry protection... Fresh_Start Feb 2017 #1

and thats a good story indeed. Jim Beard Feb 2017 #3

OMG....HYSTERICAL. Well done well done...I'm using that on twitter...thank you TrekLuver Feb 2017 #13

Yes, because all severely mentally ill people are dangerous Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #2

It is not demonizing anyone to restrict access to firearms. HassleCat Feb 2017 #6

It actually is. You are excluding them from a right they otherwise have Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #8

agreed! arithia Feb 2017 #22

I really don't see how anyone who is mentally ill enough TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #9

So - it's for their own good. That's infantilizing peole with mental health conditions. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #12

HOW is a gun going to keep the mentally ill from being shot by police? angstlessk Feb 2017 #17

Were you determined 'mentally ill enough' by a panel? Is there some sort of 'due process' involved? jmg257 Feb 2017 #14

I was determined mentally ill enough TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #24

Maybe it's a good thing. HassleCat Feb 2017 #4

What is missing from the thread is the definition of - mentally ill - and a sense of humor. Fred Sanders Feb 2017 #26

There is nothing funny about it. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #30

I'm assuming it applies only to those who woild hurt someone. HassleCat Feb 2017 #33

Mass shootings are just another media opportunity for Donald. gordianot Feb 2017 #5

that's going to go over well gopiscrap Feb 2017 #7

is there any standard that will prevent gun ownership? mental illness, no. demigoddess Feb 2017 #10

They'd love to pass a "libtard" gun ban I'm sure. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #16

It would be interesting to see what would happen MountCleaners Feb 2017 #18

Yes, there are. If one is adjudicated mentally defective (the wording in the law, not mine).. X_Digger Feb 2017 #27

We already have such laws in place, they just aren't directed at people by age. braddy Feb 2017 #11

Jesus! Another kick in the gut for the Sandy Hook families! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #15

Gunners loving this one. Kingofalldems Feb 2017 #19

The way the GOP loves guns is a sign of severe mental illness FiveGoodMen Feb 2017 #20

What could possibly go wrong? avebury Feb 2017 #21

I retired from doing SS disability claims and this puzzles me hollowdweller Feb 2017 #23

Just to be clear, it didn't prevent you from owning a gun, it added you to the FBI NCIS system. jmg257 Feb 2017 #32

They wish to prohibit people on food stamps from buying soda pop but it is alright for mentally ill Trust Buster Feb 2017 #25

Due process? How's that even work? Bah. X_Digger Feb 2017 #28

It isn't just getting SSI. Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #29

This was a mixed bag to begin with. The Article in the OP is partisan hyperbole. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #31