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hollowdweller

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23. I retired from doing SS disability claims and this puzzles me
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:39 PM
Feb 2017

My understanding of it is if you were found incapable of managing your benefits then the order prevented you from owning a gun.

What are the sorts of things that render a person incapable??

Well one is a very low IQ. Another would be a long history of substance abuse and homelessness where you could not be counted on to use the money to provide food, clothing or shelter for yourself. Another might be if you have severe bipolar disorder and have manic episodes where you spend all your money.

In general 90% of the people I determined to need a payee I wouldn't have wanted owning a gun.

In fact I would even go farther and say if somebody is found disabled on a mental basis they should have to be cleared by a doctor before they are allowed to own guns. More than a few doctors notes I read told the families to remove guns from the house even though the people were not judged violent, or suicidal and these were people not even bad enough to need a payee. Sometimes not even bad enough to be allowed period.

Been more than a few times over the 30 years I worked there where there were people I or my co workers allowed and then we'd see them later in the paper for shooting someone.

This has gotta be all about pleasing the gun manufacturers, because they seem to have no problem limiting benefits for people who test positive for drugs on other programs, but limiting guns for people who pose a legitimate risk is a no no?

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Its because Donald wants to carry protection... Fresh_Start Feb 2017 #1
and thats a good story indeed. Jim Beard Feb 2017 #3
OMG....HYSTERICAL. Well done well done...I'm using that on twitter...thank you TrekLuver Feb 2017 #13
Yes, because all severely mentally ill people are dangerous Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #2
It is not demonizing anyone to restrict access to firearms. HassleCat Feb 2017 #6
It actually is. You are excluding them from a right they otherwise have Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #8
agreed! arithia Feb 2017 #22
I really don't see how anyone who is mentally ill enough TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #9
So - it's for their own good. That's infantilizing peole with mental health conditions. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #12
HOW is a gun going to keep the mentally ill from being shot by police? angstlessk Feb 2017 #17
Were you determined 'mentally ill enough' by a panel? Is there some sort of 'due process' involved? jmg257 Feb 2017 #14
I was determined mentally ill enough TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #24
Maybe it's a good thing. HassleCat Feb 2017 #4
What is missing from the thread is the definition of - mentally ill - and a sense of humor. Fred Sanders Feb 2017 #26
There is nothing funny about it. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #30
I'm assuming it applies only to those who woild hurt someone. HassleCat Feb 2017 #33
Mass shootings are just another media opportunity for Donald. gordianot Feb 2017 #5
that's going to go over well gopiscrap Feb 2017 #7
is there any standard that will prevent gun ownership? mental illness, no. demigoddess Feb 2017 #10
They'd love to pass a "libtard" gun ban I'm sure. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #16
It would be interesting to see what would happen MountCleaners Feb 2017 #18
Yes, there are. If one is adjudicated mentally defective (the wording in the law, not mine).. X_Digger Feb 2017 #27
We already have such laws in place, they just aren't directed at people by age. braddy Feb 2017 #11
Jesus! Another kick in the gut for the Sandy Hook families! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #15
Gunners loving this one. Kingofalldems Feb 2017 #19
The way the GOP loves guns is a sign of severe mental illness FiveGoodMen Feb 2017 #20
What could possibly go wrong? avebury Feb 2017 #21
I retired from doing SS disability claims and this puzzles me hollowdweller Feb 2017 #23
Just to be clear, it didn't prevent you from owning a gun, it added you to the FBI NCIS system. jmg257 Feb 2017 #32
They wish to prohibit people on food stamps from buying soda pop but it is alright for mentally ill Trust Buster Feb 2017 #25
Due process? How's that even work? Bah. X_Digger Feb 2017 #28
It isn't just getting SSI. Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #29
This was a mixed bag to begin with. The Article in the OP is partisan hyperbole. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #31
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