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In reply to the discussion: "count me among those who find all of this rather creepy" [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)9. I can't help it, but I'm old enough to remember those old black and white films. Yep. Going there:
http://www.ww2archive.net/data/media/2/Nazi%20Poster%20-%20Adolf%20Hitler%20-%20%27Ein%20Volk,%20Ein%20Reich,%20Ein%20Fuhrer!%27%20%281%29.jpg
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer.
One people, one empire, one leader.
The creepy factor is just imprinted. We had a thread last night with the Raelians flying a plane over New Jersey with a flag trying to rehabilitate the Swastika, back to its more positive roots.
But once you hear that oath quoted a few times with such conviction, you never forget the sound of those voices.
Oh, it's just a coincidence, a pattern. I don't know if we should care or not. Since we appear to be going the repeat the cycle of the 1930's whether we want to go there or not.
It was reported with concern that there were oath taking ceremonies to swear allegiance GWB as he entered the White House and right after he had that banana republic or Stalinesque travesty of an inauguration, planes overhead, like a dictator showing off his toys.
And we can't forget the kevlar vest, the eggs and the times the procession was stopped along the way by angry voters and the talking head complaining about the lack of civility. He conveniently didn't mention the incivility of the mob outside Gore's official mansion during the evenings before the SCOTUS gave the country to the descendant of Prescott Bush of the business coup detailed in the Congressional Record. Yes, the coup of 2000 complete with brown shirts in FL, just in Brooks Brothers suits this time.
What a lovely image. No wonder we want to forget it as we don't want to be prisoners of Fate. But the GOP insist on 'going there' with their greasier version of O'Reilly playing Goebbels, Glenn Beck. They can't stop referencing Hitler, Stalin, Nazis and Communists because they know the power of the meme. They have called Obama's attempts to set up a national youth core of paid volunteers to do community work such as Clinton did 'the Hitler youth squad' as 'Obama youth squads' who were going to come and drag people out of their beds to the FEMA camps. We don't seem to have tired of these stereotypes.
Yes, the Paulites have a complaint as they had made up their minds who they were voting for before they showed up. They never intended to go into the convention and consider anyone else. They are purist fanatics just like the Tea Party.
There was a similar shutting down with the Democrats in 2004 and 2008 with some arm twisting. But the only oaths were among the electoral college voters and no one is suggesting that now. If the GOP have rigged that, it also doesn't make much difference. The big money with Romney selected him.
But the reports out of the Bush White House about them swearing an oath of allegiance to him personally triggered a lot of memories of older folks. His followers did follow his or Cheney's orders and trashed the Constitution, straight in our faces.
The Paulites have no one but themselves to blame for having hitched themselves to a man who refuses to leave the GOP and start a third party. This is who they are in bed with, no matter what they say. They did not oppose the coup of 2000, still support the majority of the GOP goals, and their cat fight means nothing.
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer.
One people, one empire, one leader.
The creepy factor is just imprinted. We had a thread last night with the Raelians flying a plane over New Jersey with a flag trying to rehabilitate the Swastika, back to its more positive roots.
But once you hear that oath quoted a few times with such conviction, you never forget the sound of those voices.
Oh, it's just a coincidence, a pattern. I don't know if we should care or not. Since we appear to be going the repeat the cycle of the 1930's whether we want to go there or not.
It was reported with concern that there were oath taking ceremonies to swear allegiance GWB as he entered the White House and right after he had that banana republic or Stalinesque travesty of an inauguration, planes overhead, like a dictator showing off his toys.
And we can't forget the kevlar vest, the eggs and the times the procession was stopped along the way by angry voters and the talking head complaining about the lack of civility. He conveniently didn't mention the incivility of the mob outside Gore's official mansion during the evenings before the SCOTUS gave the country to the descendant of Prescott Bush of the business coup detailed in the Congressional Record. Yes, the coup of 2000 complete with brown shirts in FL, just in Brooks Brothers suits this time.
What a lovely image. No wonder we want to forget it as we don't want to be prisoners of Fate. But the GOP insist on 'going there' with their greasier version of O'Reilly playing Goebbels, Glenn Beck. They can't stop referencing Hitler, Stalin, Nazis and Communists because they know the power of the meme. They have called Obama's attempts to set up a national youth core of paid volunteers to do community work such as Clinton did 'the Hitler youth squad' as 'Obama youth squads' who were going to come and drag people out of their beds to the FEMA camps. We don't seem to have tired of these stereotypes.
Yes, the Paulites have a complaint as they had made up their minds who they were voting for before they showed up. They never intended to go into the convention and consider anyone else. They are purist fanatics just like the Tea Party.
There was a similar shutting down with the Democrats in 2004 and 2008 with some arm twisting. But the only oaths were among the electoral college voters and no one is suggesting that now. If the GOP have rigged that, it also doesn't make much difference. The big money with Romney selected him.
But the reports out of the Bush White House about them swearing an oath of allegiance to him personally triggered a lot of memories of older folks. His followers did follow his or Cheney's orders and trashed the Constitution, straight in our faces.
The Paulites have no one but themselves to blame for having hitched themselves to a man who refuses to leave the GOP and start a third party. This is who they are in bed with, no matter what they say. They did not oppose the coup of 2000, still support the majority of the GOP goals, and their cat fight means nothing.
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I can't help it, but I'm old enough to remember those old black and white films. Yep. Going there:
freshwest
Jun 2012
#9
All part of this authoritarism pathology that permeates through the Republican Party.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2012
#14