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1965Comet

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56. Its always dangerous

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:56 AM

Feb 2017

to judge someone (especially a President) based on their supposed intentions. Seriously, G.W. Bush might have had good intentions in trying to "liberate" the people of Iraq.

Even if his intentions were good, there is no argument that what he did would today be considered terrible war crimes.

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The Uncomfortable Love Affair Between Donald Trump and the New England Patriots [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 OP

I don't care. I want patriots to win. Politics in entertainment is not needed. yeoman6987 Feb 2017 #1

If DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #3

I don't deprive myself of a movie if it's good due to an actor yeoman6987 Feb 2017 #7

Would you go to a movie that was directed by Leni Riefenstahl ? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #8

Have no idea who that is. yeoman6987 Feb 2017 #9

Helene Bertha Amalie "Leni" Riefenstahl DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #10

Imagine, you make a film about the Berlin Olympics and forget to mention msanthrope Feb 2017 #24

No. jeffreyi Feb 2017 #12

Cool story, bro RandiFan1290 Feb 2017 #20

If you were an American in 1943... 1965Comet Feb 2017 #27

Are you using FDR as a foil to defend Belichick's, Brady's, and Kraft's support of Drumpf? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #30

How about this then 1965Comet Feb 2017 #39

FDR should never interned the Japanese. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #44

redirect 1965Comet Feb 2017 #45

Asked and answered DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #47

Oh I think your rooting for patriots is all about politics, yeoman6987. Kingofalldems Feb 2017 #14

Normally I agree. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #17

Neither is arrogance in sports needed. grantcart Feb 2017 #18

Well...let's expand that a bit SayItLoud Feb 2017 #55

Nice try fellas... Blanks Feb 2017 #2

Fuck the Patriots alarimer Feb 2017 #4

The Falcons owner is a big republican moneyman Blue_true Feb 2017 #19

Well, he is taking ALL the team employees to the SuperBowl alarimer Feb 2017 #22

Blank is a nominal Democrat who gives to both parties. He isn't a true believer like us. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #29

+1, hatred of division rivals is required as part of football but the cheating patriots deserve a uponit7771 Feb 2017 #48

Benedict Donald, Patriot. "You are entering the Twilight Zone". oasis Feb 2017 #5

A fine mess ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #6

+1, I think this is salient; bigotry makes progressives itch ... we stay way clear of it uponit7771 Feb 2017 #49

Hubby is a long time Falcons Fan! Falcons are my team AFTER the NYG --- Raine1967 Feb 2017 #11

Normally I would go with my New England neighbors....NOT THIS YEAR. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #13

My opposition is 100% political. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #15

I hate Football. Dawson Leery Feb 2017 #16

Authur Blank IS NOT a Democrat. Blue_true Feb 2017 #21

Arthur Blank spent $177,400 (74.2 percent to Democrats). DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #23

Just stop. mindfulNJ Feb 2017 #25

In light of this I will never stop DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #26

Bill Belichick's vote was cancelled out mindfulNJ Feb 2017 #31

It is him that will hold the Vince Lombardi trophy , not the Massachusetts voters. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #32

What the fuck... shouldn't be surprised, both he and Benedict Donald are into cheating to win uponit7771 Feb 2017 #51

The OP includes a quote from FDR in his sig... 1965Comet Feb 2017 #28

I explained it. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #33

Actually, 1965Comet Feb 2017 #40

What does this have to do with Bill Belichick's infatuation with Donald Drumpf? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #42

My post wasn't about the alliance between the US and the USSR 1965Comet Feb 2017 #43

If you want to start a thread about the alleged perfidy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt you are free... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #46

Stop being obtuse 1965Comet Feb 2017 #50

Another false equivalency, FDR was trying to be a good person doing bad things with good intentions uponit7771 Feb 2017 #53

Its always dangerous 1965Comet Feb 2017 #56

You're right, actions and intentions is how I'm judging Benedict Donald... he's still fucked up uponit7771 Feb 2017 #59

Ok, 1965Comet Feb 2017 #61

As for your first question asked and answered; Stalin was trying to help us more than uponit7771 Feb 2017 #66

Well, FDR did call him "Uncle Joe", but... 1965Comet Feb 2017 #69

Yes it does, absolutely ... that's the main point of the false equivalency ... we got something uponit7771 Feb 2017 #70

Shrug 1965Comet Feb 2017 #73

George Bush is a better human being than Donald Drumpf. The former is misguided. The latter is evil. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #71

RIGHT !!! At this point even those who voted for him ... and ... are paying half ass'd attention uponit7771 Feb 2017 #72

I didn't question Bush* 's character. I questioned his judgment. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #75

Let's unpack this, shall we? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #58

False equivalency, Stalin was trying to help us more than screw us... he had a stake in it himself uponit7771 Feb 2017 #52

The Russian Army was also bleeding the Germans dry. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #60

+1, that's my main point is FDR got something out of getting close to Stalin what the hell uponit7771 Feb 2017 #67

Stalin was a real bad guy. NAZISM was the existential threat.... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #74

I am reminded of the line in the movie Lincoln Blue_true Feb 2017 #35

Thanks for the psychoanalysis. I don't hate the Patriots. I hate Drumpf sycophants. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #36

As if the Pats needed another reason for everyone outside of MA to despise them budkin Feb 2017 #34

Cheaters gotta stick together elehhhhna Feb 2017 #37

Is New England Patriots the code word for Ivanka? MyNameGoesHere Feb 2017 #38

Found this on Brady's wife.. since I know she's an immigrant.. Cha Feb 2017 #41

Dont bother mindfulNJ Feb 2017 #54

I don't "hate" them I despise MiniPooters, Benedict Donald is obviously fucked up... uponit7771 Feb 2017 #57

Right.. it looks like they're purposely obtuse or they just Cha Feb 2017 #63

Amen uponit7771 Feb 2017 #68

I'm just posting the info on his wife.. they can hate the patriots Cha Feb 2017 #62

I want to see the Patriots get crushed by the Falcons. democratisphere Feb 2017 #64

Eh Afromania Feb 2017 #65