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delisen

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104. Stein, Sarandon and West had a lot of sway over voters I know: ill-informed voters who watched
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 01:26 PM
Feb 2017

only MSNBC, or only read The Nation, live in a political bubble in university towns or big cities, and tend to make fun of people who lived in what they dismissively called the "burbs." Big on opinion, short on facts. ready to follow a Leader who talks in generalities and has a narrow focus. People who have adopted an off-the-shelf political philosophy.

I lived through Nader's BS on no difference between the parties--which brought us G W Bush, and Sanders BS about the Democratic and Republican establishment. The parties are not alike.

In four years their will be a new crop of voters who think they are part of a Revolution or part of a vote your conscience movement, and some of the now shell-shocked bubble-dwellers may revert to their old ways.

Re-inventers of the Broken Wheel. I don't want to make it easy for them to continue screwing up my life.

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Jill screwed America and made her getaway with the loot. democratisphere Feb 2017 #1
+1 dalton99a Feb 2017 #4
+1000 workinclasszero Feb 2017 #66
X2 we can do it Feb 2017 #94
X1000 CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #111
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2017 #97
Not only Jill Stein. She was just benefitted from American apathy toward politics. BlueCaliDem Feb 2017 #2
oh please. mopinko Feb 2017 #3
It isn't refighting the primary or the election, but pointintng out a lying fraud still_one Feb 2017 #7
I'd love to see a resurgence of the Greens to take on the upcoming assault on the bettyellen Feb 2017 #8
Exactly. Why aren't the Greens fighting the all out Blue_true Feb 2017 #11
Just like all those Muslims are silent about terrorist attacks. meadowlander Feb 2017 #15
I don't see them IDing them selves or doing any grass roots party building... or having reps get out bettyellen Feb 2017 #64
What do you want them to do? Wear green stars? meadowlander Feb 2017 #67
Green stars? You're invoking Nazi bullshit why exactly? bettyellen Feb 2017 #78
How do you want them to "ID themselves" then? meadowlander Feb 2017 #80
I saw lots of groups promote themselves at the Women's March- unified color on signs - bettyellen Feb 2017 #82
Well, I'm certainly seeing some great examples on this thread. meadowlander Feb 2017 #84
Comparing DUers to Nazis now, WOW. This is fucking crazy. bettyellen Feb 2017 #87
A great irony is that you're stating a self-indictment with a straight face LanternWaste Feb 2017 #125
Apparently you assume all those protesters out in the streets are Hillary supporting centrists.nt m-lekktor Feb 2017 #36
For those Greens who might be protesting... CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #50
And, moving forward and looking to 2018, meadowlander Feb 2017 #68
Why do you find it necessary to defend the Greens? CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #70
Because it's human nature to root for the underdog meadowlander Feb 2017 #72
It is also human nature for people to defend those with whom they are alined CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #75
Yes, congratulations, meadowlander Feb 2017 #77
Dual Citizenship is not at all common CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #88
We have reached the point where it is absolutely necessary to insist that those who have Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #71
Do you honestly think meadowlander Feb 2017 #73
Here is one Earthican Feb 2017 #51
Hillary supporters are NOT "Centrists" so quit your false labeling. Cha Feb 2017 #90
Stop attacking Hillary supporters...who are progressive... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #110
They're not really green or they would have put environment first. we can do it Feb 2017 #117
The Greens helped cause the assault on our environment so screw them... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #112
Why would you like to extend the rule in a manner that would give cover... NCTraveler Feb 2017 #25
Jill Stein isn't a Democrat Bradical79 Feb 2017 #26
Not a Democrat. Fuck her. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #42
totally agree adult person !! jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #76
The only problem with forgetting Jill is she will be back in 2020, $5 Million richer.... Hekate Feb 2017 #81
well, start remembering her in 2019, if mopinko Feb 2017 #83
Oh yeah. I'm not forgetting what she said and did. Hekate Feb 2017 #85
I think we do.. jill stein is a dangerous lying tool.. Cha Feb 2017 #89
to what end? she aint gonna give back the money. come 2020 mopinko Feb 2017 #91
We can multi-task.. stein doesn't get a pass. Cha Feb 2017 #92
Norm Ornstein is one of the coolest guys I know DFW Feb 2017 #98
Mahalo for telling me that anecdote Cha Feb 2017 #99
So do I DFW Feb 2017 #100
+1 Historic NY Feb 2017 #102
Yeah, she did. dumbshit Cha Feb 2017 #114
When I went to the Women's March in Tucson there were three Stein supporters who grantcart Feb 2017 #107
Fuck Jill Stein. yardwork Feb 2017 #5
Stein and the greenies gave us Trump Gothmog Feb 2017 #6
100 million Trump voters and non-voters gave us Trump. Orsino Feb 2017 #14
Oh really, take a look at the vote totals in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #52
it surprises me how many people don't know that starshine00 Feb 2017 #65
You're still cherry-picking. Orsino Feb 2017 #122
Yes, I am cherry-picking, but with good reason CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #123
Your point pales a bit. Orsino Feb 2017 #124
Why are you defending Stein voters? CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #126
I'm doing something a little more nuanced than hating America or beating anyone's spouse. Orsino Feb 2017 #127
No it is not...and these are the same excuse used about 2000. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #118
I believe so starshine00 Feb 2017 #34
Yep, let's keep beating this drum all the way to midterm losses. meadowlander Feb 2017 #9
Maybe a lot of those people did not vote Blue_true Feb 2017 #13
I will literally eat my hat meadowlander Feb 2017 #18
The fact is that 1.7% have facilitated gross damage Blue_true Feb 2017 #19
Even if I agree with you meadowlander Feb 2017 #22
The lesson is the danger of self sabotage... JHan Feb 2017 #30
Fight the elephant in front of you, not the gnats on your heels. meadowlander Feb 2017 #54
It matters because the strategy of Steiners makes us impotent .. JHan Feb 2017 #61
If they were on our heels that would be one thing. They're not. They keep pulling this nonsense stevenleser Feb 2017 #95
Yep Glamrock Feb 2017 #33
x 1000 starshine00 Feb 2017 #37
Stein, Sarandon and West had a lot of sway over voters I know: ill-informed voters who watched delisen Feb 2017 #104
I think you're right. HassleCat Feb 2017 #28
Probably. ( btw I lol'd) JHan Feb 2017 #31
She certainly didn't help create the conditions to Blue_true Feb 2017 #56
On November 8th, I saw over a million liberal puritans set the progressive agenda Charles Bukowski Feb 2017 #57
And, by way of context, meadowlander Feb 2017 #60
My favorite group, just have to give them a shout-out. HassleCat Feb 2017 #62
Well Said....and poetic. nt delisen Feb 2017 #106
A one line TRUE observation is not "spending all our time and energy." The observation Squinch Feb 2017 #45
We Can Multi-task.. freaking stein does NOT get a pass. Cha Feb 2017 #93
This is important to bring up ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #10
"Two years is a long, long time." LenaBaby61 Feb 2017 #12
The old voter suppression excuse. Blue_true Feb 2017 #16
So in essence you have to pay to vote? moda253 Feb 2017 #35
No. I am saying beat them at their game, take power Blue_true Feb 2017 #58
The old voter suppression excuse. LenaBaby61 Feb 2017 #96
Thanks for posting info. I'm bookmarking for future reference. nt oasis Feb 2017 #105
Her voters are still self-righteously defending their vote. Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #17
Same happened with Nader voters, many of whom Blue_true Feb 2017 #20
me either, they are proud starshine00 Feb 2017 #38
What is your goal here? n/t DefenseLawyer Feb 2017 #21
To remind people who need reminding that Jill Stein is NOT an ally. n/t pnwmom Feb 2017 #24
these are some of the most delusional people I have ever encountered starshine00 Feb 2017 #39
They are like Trump. Little wonder they could not see the danger. nt Blue_true Feb 2017 #59
With all due respect pnwmom, Glamrock Feb 2017 #43
Some of them still come here and try to push her ideas. It doesn't hurt other DUers pnwmom Feb 2017 #49
What would have happened if Stein voters had voted instead for Hillary CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #53
Reminding poeple that we have someone claiming to be on the left.... NCTraveler Feb 2017 #27
I guess I would prefer convincing people that we understand the issues of the disaffected DefenseLawyer Feb 2017 #41
She is not disaffected as you claim. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #46
I'm talking about the people that are drawn to her message DefenseLawyer Feb 2017 #47
I mentioned them as well. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #48
Vengeance. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #44
It's working GREAT. She netted $4 million from her drive for the audits pnwmom Feb 2017 #23
Jill... Mike Nelson Feb 2017 #29
the carnage of Nader is still being acted out on the bodies of Yazidi women via serial rape starshine00 Feb 2017 #40
So true. n/t delisen Feb 2017 #108
Whuuutt? otohara Feb 2017 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Feb 2017 #121
Stupid. It's going stupid. Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #32
and all over the world, people wonder what the fuck happened to the political process mopinko Feb 2017 #63
Hillary lost, so she accomplished her mission Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #69
Where is the money? mfcorey1 Feb 2017 #74
GREEN Getting Republicans Elected Every November DinahMoeHum Feb 2017 #79
her and Gary Johnson pamdb Feb 2017 #86
Stein's an idiot Uponthegears Feb 2017 #101
its done...time to focus on 2018 beachbum bob Feb 2017 #103
She doesn't care...She is an entititled wealthy white woman past Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #109
Stein can rot in a warm place Gothmog Feb 2017 #113
Hope her followers have plenty of crystals when they lose their health care coverage. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2017 #115
Ask her in a tweet. She will answer. nikibatts Feb 2017 #116
Based on the recount money it's doing real well for her Lee-Lee Feb 2017 #119
yep heaven05 Feb 2017 #120
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