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In reply to the discussion: I can't believe some Libs/Progressives here would rather see the ACA struck down [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)As time goes forward in actual reality, the costs become more and more unmanageable.
Are you arguing the scope of the problem is the same as it was twenty years ago?
Are you arguing that current growth rates can be sustain indefinitely?
Are you arguing that no matter what costs are that individuals and governments will be able to keep up?
THE MATH DOESN'T WORK. Congress can pass a new law each day to outlaw gravity but all our feet will remain firmly on the ground. Actual reality trumps political reality every single time. The rationale for the effort was clear, the government's long term debt is primarily driven by health care, a little less advertised is a bit of reality for the cartel which is the boomers are migrating to Medicare and a comparably poor working class that cannot keep up with present pricing and certainly not many years of growth, at least not without substantial support.
When this started we were already at 16% of GDP and growing at over 10% a year, this has increased since then.
Plug those numbers in and you tell me how long it will work, especially with anemic overall growth at a lesser rate for as far as the eye can see. Obviously, the timeline isn't anything like infinite, you hit 100% of GDP in maybe 50 years. I don't think anyone is going to try to even argue it will even have to approach 100% of GDP to collapse the entire economy. Do you think the captains of all the other industries are going to just allow Congress to do nothing as one sector devours the economy?
Are you seriously trying to contend that in the face of mounting costs that people won't self select out even if they desire coverage? Hell, many are already on the way out by migrating to high deductible, junk plans they are already just hanging on. Younger people and those without acute needs will drop first, those who need regular treatment will hold on the longest out of desperation but that only will increase costs to those remaining in the pool.
Everything has a breaking point, we are undoubtedly closer to ours than we were twenty years ago. The proof is in the paychecks which are smaller and those premiums are higher for a lower level of coverage.
The longer the fire burns the hotter it gets and the more fuel it consumes.
There are a significant percentage within the cartel that want the major pieces-the individual mandate and government subsidies. They see the boomers leaving their market, just the drop in numbers is a problem. Many of them understand that without government intervention that the customers available won't be profitable, they may have objections to the plan as is but even many in the cartel understand the need for some kind of reform to sustain them if they intend a long game.