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Perseus

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18. This is a good story and raises questions
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:39 AM
Feb 2017

These questions I have always had when reading about dictatorships, and I have always wondered why people like the article describes "went back home, had dinner with the family and read stories to their kids", would act on what has to be against their principles and/or natural human conscience.

Every dictatorship has military whose personnel comes from low/middle society but you still see them abuse people from their own classes, and one has to wonder what makes these people act that way, of course they have to know its wrong. The man putting handcuffs on a five year old must have related to one of his kids, if he had one, or a cousin, a neighbour...what makes these people act that way? I wish I had the answer, but regardless of the answer, it is a mass of people ordered by a sick regime who will turn against their own.

And here lies the danger, that is why people need to be very aware not to stop at Trump, but to see beyond because it is Bannon, Ryan, McConnell the ones the USA democracy has to be very aware of, those are the ones pulling the strings, Trump is just a very convenient decoy, which will be discarded when it is of no more use, but the others are the ones making the shots.

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Thanks for posting. yardwork Feb 2017 #1
We are seeing how it was possible for Hitler regime to gain power/commit atrocities wishstar Feb 2017 #2
We do what we're told. dawg Feb 2017 #3
NOT ALL OF US! No! Authoritarians are wired by nature Hortensis Feb 2017 #5
Even most liberals in those situations NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #9
In support of your post, Lets not forget they all have bills to pay Victor_c3 Feb 2017 #11
They are also threatened with prosecution 2naSalit Feb 2017 #43
Working for the federal government was a dream come true for me Victor_c3 Feb 2017 #46
Indeed. 2naSalit Feb 2017 #47
Me, too DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #77
well OK but how far do you go treestar Feb 2017 #75
A true liberal in those cases would have tried to make Blue_true Feb 2017 #51
Exactly! I told my DH that the above actions reflected all the stories about nazi's infiltrating the Hestia Feb 2017 #85
I mention the Milgram Experiment & Stanford Prison Experiment in my own post tblue37 Feb 2017 #57
Staying employed Scarsdale Feb 2017 #12
I am sure many were reconsidering their jobs at that point... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #44
The Milgram Experiment showed that MOST ordinary people would commit torture and murder tblue37 Feb 2017 #55
Or at least listen to songs about them ... dawg Feb 2017 #58
FUCK THAT Skittles Feb 2017 #91
I'm with you on that ... mostly. dawg Feb 2017 #92
Some people never question authority neeksgeek Feb 2017 #4
I was just about to post this Danmel Feb 2017 #6
From wikipedia... kirby Feb 2017 #26
There is a lot of controversy neeksgeek Feb 2017 #80
this could apply to the Republicans bdamomma Feb 2017 #7
True Scarsdale Feb 2017 #13
I hope the perpetrators Danascot Feb 2017 #8
... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #45
Do we actually know that children were handcuffed? cab67 Feb 2017 #10
Yes. ehrnst Feb 2017 #14
It says "reportedly handcuffed." cab67 Feb 2017 #34
The White House says a five-year-old boy was held for five hours and reportedly handcuffed because ehrnst Feb 2017 #35
Aren't handcuffs now plastic ties, which can be tightened to various circumferences? Demit Feb 2017 #59
AND? Jesus FUCKING CHRIST. Does that make it okey-dokey to fucking handcuff 5 year olds? Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #69
I was responding to the poster who thought handcuffs would be too big for a child. Demit Feb 2017 #72
My apologies, I misread the intention of your post. Children were indeed handcuffed and Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #83
Yes, children were handcuffed. Here's a PHOTO for you. Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #84
Oh wow, Maru.. seeing is believing.. Cha Feb 2017 #88
The universal soldier by Donovan gives the military equivilent karynnj Feb 2017 #15
Performed by Donovan after Buffy Saint-Marie wrote and recorded it... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #37
Thanks, I didn't know that. Nt karynnj Feb 2017 #41
Funny thing... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #42
Milgram study and Stanford Prison experiment IronLionZion Feb 2017 #16
It's what you do... marcopolo63 Feb 2017 #17
just read.. a little heaven05 Feb 2017 #24
Thank you for the link Perseus Feb 2017 #25
This is a good story and raises questions Perseus Feb 2017 #18
We were just following orders... FailureToCommunicate Feb 2017 #19
this..nt heaven05 Feb 2017 #22
Exactly - People just doing their jobs packman Feb 2017 #56
Well done! My fervent hope is that we can somehow avoid another PatrickforO Feb 2017 #20
Der Spiegel published an op-ed piece in their most recent issue calling for Germany KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #73
This is good in the sense that, had Hitler been more strongly opposed sooner, PatrickforO Feb 2017 #93
typical of people heaven05 Feb 2017 #21
This is the real danger of Trump and his blind followers... UCmeNdc Feb 2017 #23
A great but disturbing read. mainer Feb 2017 #27
One would think there are already directives treestar Feb 2017 #28
Handcuffing a 5 year old is obscene. Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2017 #29
That story should get a spotlight by the MSM. nt oasis Feb 2017 #38
Most definitely.. The poster child for the anti-trumpghouls. Cha Feb 2017 #89
You'd think it would occur to the employee treestar Feb 2017 #74
I know, right. Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2017 #76
The Milgram experiments. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #30
They would have killed Johnny2X2X Feb 2017 #31
The Banality of Evil... HopeAgain Feb 2017 #32
Excellent observation. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #53
An excellent post malaise Feb 2017 #33
"Patriotic American" is a phrase that will one day bear the bitter irony of the term Aristus Feb 2017 #36
Perdom me but... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #39
You should address that to the author of the article. ehrnst Feb 2017 #40
The op-ed is reporting specific actions, not accusing all federal employees. Demit Feb 2017 #60
... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #61
Run out of words? Demit Feb 2017 #64
Didn't merit a response other than to acknowledge that I saw it. 2naSalit Feb 2017 #86
Sorry, but 'authoritarian' is a no no word you cannot use. Rex Feb 2017 #48
Kick for visibility. Homer Wells Feb 2017 #49
Don't humanize them. The people that did those acts Blue_true Feb 2017 #50
But I was simply following orders. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #52
The good Germans who facilitated Hitler's crimes against humanity. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #54
Every evil regime throughout history sammythecat Feb 2017 #62
Really, do we have to learn these same fucking lessons all over again??!! Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #63
Yes, because schools have a hard time teaching history to kids that Ilsa Feb 2017 #67
I think there would be ways to overcome that sort of problem if not for all the forces Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #70
Yep. It's predictable. nt Ilsa Feb 2017 #78
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #81
THIS. IS. NOT. NORMAL!!!! Initech Feb 2017 #65
Title is essence of the evil of fascism: "Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump" Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #66
Trump's willing executioners - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #68
Vichy Republicans and quislings. GoneOffShore Feb 2017 #71
One of Hannah Arendt's zentrum Feb 2017 #79
A lot of Americans are also "good Germans." nt SunSeeker Feb 2017 #82
Good little trump-ghouls :( Cha Feb 2017 #90
Wow.. excellent descriptive article detailing what went on behind Cha Feb 2017 #87
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