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23. Because they knew the election was stolen, and rightwing propagandists needed a scapegoat

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:06 AM

Jun 2012

to take the attention away from the biggest crime ever committed against the American people by their own plants on the SC.

Rove is very clever. I was there, arguing with right wingers on mixed forums at the time, and that was their favorite response to anyone who raised the very real issues surrounding that treasonous decision. Always, they claimed that 'liberals are just refusing to admit that their favorite moron, Ralph Nader, took votes from Gore and that is how Bush won'.

And that is why to see it now being pushed by some on the Left, makes me wonder sometimes.

Nader had zero to do with the theft of that election. See my post above (or maybe below with Vincent Bugliosi's article on that crime, written right after. You will notice that Nader is not even a factor in his deductions. For good reason.

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New York Mag: Yes, Bush v. Gore Did Steal the Election [View all] Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 OP

K & R. n/t pnwmom Jun 2012 #1

kick ......... a republican in the ass Angry Dragon Jun 2012 #2

none of this was possible without the corruption of the corporate bought off media Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #3

And there we have it! Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #35

I remember that! The votes have been counted and recounted and recounted again. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #40

k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2012 #4

They would not have been able to pull this off if not for Ralph Nader. onehandle Jun 2012 #5

They would have pulled this off if God was running against them. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #7

How is actual treason defined, and how did the SCOTUS meet this definition? Flatulo Jun 2012 #12

Vincent Bugliosi makes the case that what they did 'defiled the law' and was 'treason' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #22

Interesting. I don't believe I'd heard it framed this way before. Flatulo Jun 2012 #25

No, he's fairly clear that while it is treasonous to steal an election, especially if you are the sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #72

That's a good post, sabrina. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #36

I second that. Sabrina is right... This Nader distraction is just that.... midnight Jun 2012 #84

Thanks, I'm going to re-read this excellent article. n/t pa28 Jun 2012 #62

Thanks, this was not a part of the CS thread. freshwest Jun 2012 #81

Article III, Section 3, US Constitution: sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #74

"That meme is a right wing meme, and has been from day one." Pass that joint over here. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #17

Because they knew the election was stolen, and rightwing propagandists needed a scapegoat sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #23

You just now see it being "pushed" on the Left. Hogwash. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #28

The BS in this conversation is the notion that Nader had anything to do with the sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #29

Thank you for backing off your insane notion that this was a rightwing idea only until now. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #46

And, chervilant Jun 2012 #63

You're breaking my heart here. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #71

To the newest member of my IL: chervilant Jun 2012 #75

Not reading a comment and then commenting on what you didn't read results in the kind of comment sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #66

Let me put it this way. Saying this was only a right wing meme until just recently is not true. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #70

You are incorrect, again. I did not say it was ONLY a rightwing meme. I was posting on sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #73

Sabrina, people can read. You posted it up there. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #76

This is what I posted: sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #83

"And that is why to see it now being pushed by some on the Left, makes me wonder sometimes." Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #85

Why would I lie about it? I meant it! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #86

So if Ron Paul decided to run in this election goclark Jun 2012 #65

You are asking a moot question. YOU can run in any election as can I or anyone else. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #67

Not trying to prevent any one from running goclark Jun 2012 #87

I am sorry, my apologies then. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #88

hmm... chervilant Jun 2012 #61

Hallelujah! Albert Gore was NEVER going to be inaugurated. The fix was in. Raster Jun 2012 #18

+ a gazillion chervilant Jun 2012 #60

Why didn't Gore seek the votes of the left? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #8

+1` LeftofU Jun 2012 #14

No, the media whores did an excellent job of sliming him. Remember "Gore is a liar?" McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #16

I'm convinced the corporate media did it primarily because Gore was the leading political champion Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #39

You mean why didn't he seek the votes of the foolish? McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #15

He sought the votes of the moderates and they voted for Bush. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #20

+1 nt SunSeeker Jun 2012 #10

Oh, fer cying out loud! By that standard... JHB Jun 2012 #32

Everyone knew in advance that it was going to be the closest election in history. onehandle Jun 2012 #33

Well, I can see how this is going. JHB Jun 2012 #44

Gore WON the election, so what did Ralph Nader have to with anything? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #69

I hope those 200,000+ Democratic Floridian idiots who voted for Bush can sleep at night. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #41

I don't grasswire Jun 2012 #42

Oh please deutsey Jun 2012 #78

and what has the democratic party done since then to prevent this kind of thing? nt msongs Jun 2012 #6

perfect question. waiting for an answer. bbgrunt Jun 2012 #9

Here's one thing, courtesy of Omaha Steve... SunSeeker Jun 2012 #13

"The Democrats want to keep recounting until they win" longship Jun 2012 #11

never forget grasswire Jun 2012 #43

It is sad how the error was not corrected immediately Rex Jun 2012 #19

It was NOT a "mistake." It was absolutely deliberate. aquart Jun 2012 #27

I meant by all the other million sane people in America Rex Jun 2012 #50

I question how the machine "mistakenly picked up a second vote for president" thecrow Jun 2012 #21

Perhaps when someone accidentally voted twice on a ballot, Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #31

There are so many myths about this election it is difficult to address them all in a single thread Samantha Jun 2012 #24

Good post, thank you. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #34

Duh. aquart Jun 2012 #26

I think we are still suffering from the shock and awe of what they used this coup for Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #30

Steal the Election dylanssbrown Jun 2012 #37

History will show Bush stole the election lovuian Jun 2012 #38

Only if sane people regain power FiveGoodMen Jun 2012 #47

History is written by the winners Doctor_J Jun 2012 #80

I live in Palm Beach County and I voted for Gore RandiFan1290 Jun 2012 #45

Including Kerry, Feingold, Sanders, etc. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #52

Sanders joined the Senate in 2007 RandiFan1290 Jun 2012 #89

Thanks, I'm glad to know that. I just never could and still can't Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Jun 2012 #96

And I believe Kerry beat Bush duhneece Jun 2012 #48

Yes, me too GCP Jun 2012 #53

Gore would have won the recount AND THAT'S EVEN AFTER KATHLEEN HARRIS PURGED wiggs Jun 2012 #49

We knew this at the time GCP Jun 2012 #51

Kick and recommend for the truth! KansDem Jun 2012 #54

And just look damnedifIknow Jun 2012 #55

This may help set the record straight but it does nothing else lunatica Jun 2012 #56

The underlying truth was the judicial coup de etat... joycejnr Jun 2012 #57

Well I admit that dark forest Jun 2012 #58

I'm glad this issue is finally being written about. pa28 Jun 2012 #59

Their candidate needed to steal the elections to win rudycantfail Jun 2012 #64

The Scalia-tainted USSC... liberalmuse Jun 2012 #68

Not news to many of us here but nothing wrong with making the point again & again & again & again... patrice Jun 2012 #77

our last chance to save the republic Doctor_J Jun 2012 #79

One of the comments to this article sites Gregg Palast's Bush Family Fortune book and midnight Jun 2012 #82

And a plane crash knocked the consortium report off the news Gman Jun 2012 #90

Get ready for the Next Theft TomClash Jun 2012 #91

To this DAY idiots on the Right claim this guy was a Democrat Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #92

More dem bashing politicasista Jun 2012 #93

How is this 'dem bashing'? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #94

The OP bashed Dems like politicasista Jun 2012 #95

Nothing in the OP about Kerry at all, or in the linked article muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #97

Here politicasista Jun 2012 #98