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MADem

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23. I suspect he's a West Virginia Democrat. You're not going to find an acceptable Dem to his left

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Fri Feb 10, 2017, 03:48 AM

Feb 2017

that can get elected there....yet, anyway. Look at whose seat he's occupying.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Ken Burch Feb 2017 OP

On what basis do you say 'that kind of politics can still work?' elleng Feb 2017 #1

We may not like him, Big Blue Marble Feb 2017 #2

What He Did For Love Me. Feb 2017 #3

OMG the EpiPen CEO creep leftstreet Feb 2017 #6

Yes Indeedy Me. Feb 2017 #12

Don't forget WVU gave her a bogus degree also hollowdweller Feb 2017 #32

That, too. dalton99a Feb 2017 #43

You said "We all know he's inevitably going to cross the aisle now anyway." MADem Feb 2017 #4

Because there is no way he can keep going further and further right Ken Burch Feb 2017 #7

That's precisely why he can get away with it--because we need him more than he needs us. MADem Feb 2017 #10

Difference between Manchin and Lieberman is the states they represent crazycatlady Feb 2017 #46

WV has a Democratic governor dsc Feb 2017 #26

Are you psychic? "We all know he's inevitably going to cross the aisle now anyway" KittyWampus Feb 2017 #5

If you're that far to the right, it simply has to happen. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #8

#1. Speak for youself #2. He voted against DeVos. #3. His votes says he's from a conservative KittyWampus Feb 2017 #13

You can't be sure that he'll switch to the dark side Jake Stern Feb 2017 #14

Depends on how that progressive runs. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #19

PROGRESSIVE is NOT a synonym for liberal. There are plenty of "progressives" on the GOP team. MADem Feb 2017 #15

I have never been the sort of "progressive" that cares about white working men and no one else. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #16

I wasn't implying anything about you at all. I was just pointing out a sad fact. MADem Feb 2017 #21

If you're implying that that represents most Sanders supporterss, that's bullshit. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #25

that is total bullshit dsc Feb 2017 #27

If you're talking about the 1930's yes, I agree with you. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #29

a candidate who actually did something about social justice while in office dsc Feb 2017 #30

The point is, neither of those people will ever run for office again. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #35

Thank you--that was precisely my point and you articulated it beautifully. nt MADem Feb 2017 #31

YOU stop with the "implying" and "if you're" and and "stop with that" stuff. MADem Feb 2017 #33

I said some things wrong there. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #37

You keep doing it. Do you even read what you write? MADem Feb 2017 #38

Let me put it this way: do you actually believe Keith Ellison can't be trusted to fight racism? Ken Burch Feb 2017 #42

Why are you posing silly strawmen questions? MADem Feb 2017 #45

I had a specific reason for asking that question. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #48

You are trashing HRC without using her name. Please delete this crap. bettyellen Feb 2017 #54

I'm doing nothing of the sort. I just reject the idea that Sanders supporters are collectively evil Ken Burch Feb 2017 #55

Oops I'm so sorry - it was HRC supporters you were accusing of playing a race card here: bettyellen Feb 2017 #56

Look...I went too far with "Never"...I know what happened in the New Deal era. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #59

Feminists and POC were alert stalked here for a full year and you call it bogus? Fuck that. bettyellen Feb 2017 #61

I wasn't even mentioning it. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #63

You claimed HRC supporters played some sort of race card in the above post. bettyellen Feb 2017 #64

To clarify, I mean the HRC campaign people who kept attacking Bernie on race Ken Burch Feb 2017 #67

Bullshit. Just stop w the primary crap and blaming all of us for your nonsense. Enough! bettyellen Feb 2017 #68

There was no reason for the other poster to bring up the primaries. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #69

He voted against DeVos, will vote against Price BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #9

The real question is ProudLib72 Feb 2017 #11

That's a very good point. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #17

The GOP have Senators from the "liberal" end of the spectrum (to their minds) MADem Feb 2017 #22

State with legalized weed are on edge now thanks to Beauregard. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #18

Joe Manchin is a true DINO Calculating Feb 2017 #20

I suspect he's a West Virginia Democrat. You're not going to find an acceptable Dem to his left MADem Feb 2017 #23

West Virginia is about Racism . they prefer wealthy white guys to poor black/brown/gay etc JI7 Feb 2017 #24

We keep him until we can actually build up the WV democratic party again. Tatiana Feb 2017 #28

We need to run candidates as both GOP and Dem. nikibatts Feb 2017 #34

If he's not expelled from the caucus, the Democratic Party does not exist in a meaningful sense. DemocraticWing Feb 2017 #36

It won't happen but the party does exist in a meaningful sense. "Big tent" and all that. MADem Feb 2017 #40

You have to live in WV to have any real say in this. I find him infuriating but it is WV and their hrmjustin Feb 2017 #39

I am not a fan of his and owe one of my hides to harsh criticism of him. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #41

Quite a bit of slack: JHan Feb 2017 #44

Unless you count state lines as gerrymandering crazycatlady Feb 2017 #47

Thanks for the correction.. JHan Feb 2017 #50

You mean politicians represent their consituents, not the party? n/t X_Digger Feb 2017 #49

more like trying to strike a balance between the two ... JHan Feb 2017 #51

in a place like west virginia the best would be to try to get on local school board and other local JI7 Feb 2017 #52

Not if the "have nots" are brown or female it doesn't. bettyellen Feb 2017 #53

I'm just as committed to helping the brown or female have-nots as you are. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #57

It's timing- we need to be unified against Trump not primarying folks bettyellen Feb 2017 #58

I'm for working against Trump, too. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #60

I'm not attacking Sanders, just asking people to stop ripping up Dems as a hobby... bettyellen Feb 2017 #62

I'm not ripping up anyone. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #65

You just accused HRC supporters of playing the race card. bettyellen Feb 2017 #66