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wildeyed

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150. GWB was also dyslexic.

Sat Feb 11, 2017, 10:53 AM

Feb 2017

His malapropisms were always equated with a lack of intelligence by the left, but it is a classic symptom of dyslexia, not a lack of intelligence. There were claims that he didn't/couldn't read too.

With Trump, his most obvious symptoms are related to OCD and maybe ADHD. He tics a bit when under stress (all that sniffing), has difficulty regulating emotions, impulsiveness and compulsive attention seeking behavior. His thoughts seem to get caught in a 'groove' that he can't escape from. Look at how he ruminates over any perceived slight and then tweets repetitively, even when it is clearly in his best interest to shut up. And of course the hand washing and weird food obsessions.

All of that is typical OCD/anxiety behaviors. The intrusive thoughts can really take a toll on cognitive abilities. It is worrying in a president.

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Does anybody really believe Drumpf has an I Q of 154 ? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 OP

Only he does, And maybe some of the idiots who voted for him. iemitsu Feb 2017 #1

He's so S-M-R-T that he could only develop a 3,000 word vocabulary because he's so next level. TheBlackAdder Feb 2017 #140

:) iemitsu Feb 2017 #173

No-trump is an idiot and does not have a high IQ Gothmog Feb 2017 #2

What would you peg it at? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #7

Wellll... IF the test were appropriate to his level of knowledge Hortensis Feb 2017 #135

I might believe it if you dropped the '1'...... lastlib Feb 2017 #163

LOL Zoonart Feb 2017 #3

I give him a mid 90s madokie Feb 2017 #4

I know he has lots of business failures but could one have as many business successes with such a... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #10

Define Business Success DSB ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #12

He builds things, big things... I would think that takes a reasonable amount of intelligence. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #19

He doesn't build anything. He provides the capital/funding package to sinkingfeeling Feb 2017 #35

And apparently he does not read the contracts for his investments csziggy Feb 2017 #48

I think he genuinely does have trouble reading, and avoids it as much as possible. gvstn Feb 2017 #66

Given his age a problem such as dyslexia may never have been diagnosed csziggy Feb 2017 #78

Informative post about your husband. Thank you. gvstn Feb 2017 #99

My exhusband is also dyslexic, now 69. In the mid '70s I picked up a new book at the Library called Hekate Feb 2017 #133

Yes - it was just not recognized as a problem csziggy Feb 2017 #141

GWB was also dyslexic. wildeyed Feb 2017 #150

maybe Ivanka reads to him ---the CT gov has wordpix Feb 2017 #176

The 'ct gov"? whathehell Feb 2017 #180

Without that big ass prop up madokie Feb 2017 #13

I believe you Hekate Feb 2017 #134

Does business success equal intelligence? Nwgirl503 Feb 2017 #59

"Does business success equal intelligence?" DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #62

A modicum Nwgirl503 Feb 2017 #87

I'd like to see a graph of when his successes & failures were over his career. I believe toward the napi21 Feb 2017 #202

Alzheimers - he may have been higher but his cognitive abilities adigal Feb 2017 #189

Maybe in Base 6. tanyev Feb 2017 #5

Liberals make up new math to block me making America Great Again. Sad. Bucky Feb 2017 #74

ROFL nt irisblue Feb 2017 #123

6 is his number Norbert9 Feb 2017 #127

Let me guess - 154 is according to trump, right? Lil Missy Feb 2017 #6

The best clue yet! Plus 70 years old! Jim Beard Feb 2017 #49

No: 154 Fahrenheit equals 68 Celsius! k8conant Feb 2017 #55

No bdamomma Feb 2017 #8

That brings up a question of what IQ actually measures el_bryanto Feb 2017 #9

Good judgement seems subjective, reasoning ability less so./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #14

I can tell you, as an educator, IQ tests are meaningless. Bucky Feb 2017 #76

I have been testing IQs for 25 years. MoonRiver Feb 2017 #11

I think you're probably spot on... Docreed2003 Feb 2017 #20

I don't know who has a lower IQ, dimson or Rump, but I believe the latter is meaner & more corrupt. MoonRiver Feb 2017 #22

Bush pulled a 1270 on his SAT. That's consistent with an I Q of 125. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #26

It's possible someone else took that test for him. July Feb 2017 #34

How much was Shrub's brain fried by alcohol and coke by the time bullwinkle428 Feb 2017 #38

No way did he take the SAT and get that score. MoonRiver Feb 2017 #46

Not sure if scores then are same as now wordpix Feb 2017 #175

Your recollection... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #190

We're talking now not when he was 16 - 18 yrs old, there's no way he'd get close to 1200 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #63

IQ does not change much HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #80

Here has some type of brain trauma then that would change it notably uponit7771 Feb 2017 #105

Does heavy drinking, or other drug use Mariana Feb 2017 #109

In the opposite way sort of HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #113

I agree PatSeg Feb 2017 #32

Special Education did not exist when Buffoon was in school. MoonRiver Feb 2017 #50

That is true PatSeg Feb 2017 #58

Exactly. MoonRiver Feb 2017 #60

The school's job would be PatSeg Feb 2017 #67

Wow, I did not see that post, but it really resonates! MoonRiver Feb 2017 #70

Of course, it was hearsay PatSeg Feb 2017 #72

I found it! PatSeg Feb 2017 #75

That's amazing! MoonRiver Feb 2017 #81

He did eventually end PatSeg Feb 2017 #92

Wharton undergrad, as a transfer after 2 years at Fordham. July Feb 2017 #120

That sounds pretty much PatSeg Feb 2017 #121

Yep! pandr32 Feb 2017 #83

He sounds like he was an absolute monster PatSeg Feb 2017 #93

To him it means he's the toughest guy pandr32 Feb 2017 #94

I've known people like Trump PatSeg Feb 2017 #104

You've got that right pandr32 Feb 2017 #128

Oh you are not alone PatSeg Feb 2017 #136

"uneducable" is unacceptable today but good description of so-called Pres wordpix Feb 2017 #177

He seems to be either PatSeg Feb 2017 #194

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #43

I'd say that's spot on NotThisTime Feb 2017 #54

More plausible if you remove the "1"... YoungDemCA Feb 2017 #111

I've been teaching learning disabled students for 30 yrs. wordpix Feb 2017 #174

No flippin' way. Part of my work is in behavioral and intelligence assessments. MANative Feb 2017 #15

The dyslexia wouldn't impact his IQ, though, just his knowledge, right? He also seems a tad ADD to JudyM Feb 2017 #23

It is very common these days to have the twice exceptional diagnosis HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #151

Interesting. Thanks! JudyM Feb 2017 #160

there's definitely a problem with little Donald but we cannot diagnose wordpix Feb 2017 #178

It's probably more like ambient temperature. dalton99a Feb 2017 #16

I have always heard there is a thin line between genius and doc03 Feb 2017 #17

Insanity / stupidity Charles Bukowski Feb 2017 #91

I think Kemper would have been a vile psycho murderer Mariana Feb 2017 #112

What is his emotional intelligence? Donkees Feb 2017 #18

I heard he had someone else take the test. MineralMan Feb 2017 #21

He might have an IQ of 154 in the world of Idiocracy. He does not have an IQ over 100 in reality. JTFrog Feb 2017 #24

Ha, yep, goldfish. JudyM Feb 2017 #183

Lol! nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #187

he says he knows a lot of stuff but just mean gibberish Cha Feb 2017 #25

no blueseas Feb 2017 #27

NOPE! The claim is usually 156, and it's a myth based on wilful misunderstanding/lies. Snopes says: Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #28

If he has an IQ of 156... Dave Starsky Feb 2017 #158

If he has an IQ of 154, or even 156, Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #169

No way his IQ is that high. Dave Starsky Feb 2017 #170

I'll go further: Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #171

No. bravenak Feb 2017 #29

Yes, in dogs years though... Drahthaardogs Feb 2017 #30

My IQ was measured at 165 lapfog_1 Feb 2017 #31

It all depends on how one applies their inate ability to learn and see complex relationships Dem2 Feb 2017 #157

I have a introspective personality lapfog_1 Feb 2017 #159

I have no idea what his IQ is... Dem2 Feb 2017 #161

You mean "smarter than I", I'm sure? JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #164

I'm actually a functional illiterate lapfog_1 Feb 2017 #166

Your writing skills are just fine. JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #167

But I've never cared enough to bother. lapfog_1 Feb 2017 #168

Right. JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #172

Isn't "I/me" the object of the preposition "than" here? spooky3 Feb 2017 #181

I have always written poorly lapfog_1 Feb 2017 #197

I hear you, but the point I was trying to make is that I think spooky3 Feb 2017 #199

I know someone w/ IQ 150---says he recalls most things in detail wordpix Feb 2017 #179

Absolutely not. sinkingfeeling Feb 2017 #33

I don't think he's the least bit smart. hamsterjill Feb 2017 #36

The decimal point was dropped? 15.4, barely functional organism? BSdetect Feb 2017 #37

154 was what he got on the SAT. His IQ is below room temperature. NightWatcher Feb 2017 #39

About 90 ... GeorgeGist Feb 2017 #40

I would be shocked if it's over 110, no way 120. No curiosity, low vocabulary.... dewsgirl Feb 2017 #41

I don't like IQ measurement Dallasdem1988 Feb 2017 #42

I'd be surprised if it was in the 90s... toddwv Feb 2017 #44

Almost surely not ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #45

My guess is about 110 BainsBane Feb 2017 #47

I'd say about 110 as well. Greybnk48 Feb 2017 #51

No, I have a kid with a very high IQ and believe me on his worst days (and he has many) he NEVER NotThisTime Feb 2017 #52

just as believable as his claim of weighing 250 pounds. Adrahil Feb 2017 #53

IIRC IQ-tests are taken against a set time-limit. DetlefK Feb 2017 #56

The President of the US doesn't have time for IQ tests. He's too busy... tweeting Bucky Feb 2017 #79

Yes. I have always scored extremely well on such tests, PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2017 #201

90 maybe njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #57

No, but I'm not a fan of IQ tests. They take so little into account. nolabear Feb 2017 #61

+1, he's astute at hustling beyond that he doesn't give a damn. He doesn't absorb information like a uponit7771 Feb 2017 #65

Who cares? ananda Feb 2017 #64

Does anyone believe he weighs less than 300 lbs? sarcasmo Feb 2017 #68

IQ does not equal common sense Runningdawg Feb 2017 #69

I believe he has a high IQ Calculating Feb 2017 #71

There is no evidence to suggest Trump Charles Bukowski Feb 2017 #115

I'm not convinced that he has been successful TubbersUK Feb 2017 #138

He Has a Tremendous IQ, The Greatest IQ. Your IQ is Terrible. Bucky Feb 2017 #73

Sad! sarcasmo Feb 2017 #90

120 would surprise me. dchill Feb 2017 #77

I think what happened MurrayDelph Feb 2017 #82

Typo correction: 54 NOT 154 IQ democratisphere Feb 2017 #84

Actually those numbers got transposed. Trumpler's IQ is 451 - believe me!! ElementaryPenguin Feb 2017 #85

As much as I believe there were millions of people at his inauguration. Crunchy Frog Feb 2017 #86

watch out for basing estimates on his public communications 0rganism Feb 2017 #88

My mama says stupid is as stupid does. dawg Feb 2017 #89

Who said he did? Kellyanne? nikibatts Feb 2017 #95

Hardly ailsagirl Feb 2017 #96

If 45 tests at 154, 44 would have to test at 200+ VOX Feb 2017 #97

I Believe itcfish Feb 2017 #98

I doubt it now. scarletlib Feb 2017 #100

An IQ has nothing to do with being able to function. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2017 #101

Even if his base IQ was over 100 meadowlander Feb 2017 #102

Perhaps they forgot a decimal point? guillaumeb Feb 2017 #103

No no no it's 1+5+4 eom moda253 Feb 2017 #106

you forgot the decimal point it's 15.4!!! gopiscrap Feb 2017 #107

No, no one rock Feb 2017 #108

Well, maybe back in the 70's one time after college when he was doing coke. haele Feb 2017 #110

Based on his lousy verbal skills alone milestogo Feb 2017 #114

1+5+4 etherealtruth Feb 2017 #116

i do if you leave off the one before the fifty-four. spanone Feb 2017 #117

Sure. Why not? Aristus Feb 2017 #118

He's good at getting his way. krispos42 Feb 2017 #119

No. His lack of linguistic ability and reasoning skills show that his IQ is nowhere near 150 anneboleyn Feb 2017 #122

I don't even believe he has hair. rug Feb 2017 #124

Haaaha! JudyM Feb 2017 #185

Hell no. I am surrounded by people at that level (and up) and he ain't it. Ratlike cunning .... Hekate Feb 2017 #125

No. He IS 1 person with an IQ of 54. nt joet67 Feb 2017 #126

Yes. And I also believe Melania has a degree in Design and Architecture...... Freethinker65 Feb 2017 #129

He probably knocks it out of applegrove Feb 2017 #130

Also, modern IQ tests only go up to 160. wildeyed Feb 2017 #131

Exactly. The old IQ tests were all over the place Worktodo Feb 2017 #142

Matt Damon and Dolph Lundgren both have IQs around 160 HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #154

Again, on which instrument? wildeyed Feb 2017 #165

Matt Damon, eh? JudyM Feb 2017 #188

The Mega Society has a 176 IQ cutoff HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #192

And they only accept a test the founder made up himself. wildeyed Feb 2017 #196

When monkeys fly out of my butt ornotna Feb 2017 #132

Yeah, right. smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #137

You are asking a question on a highly partisan discussion board. former9thward Feb 2017 #139

+1 Vermijelli Feb 2017 #143

Some of the responses have been measured. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #162

Like he really did the course work at Wharton. Pffft Generic Brad Feb 2017 #144

120 with points off for personality disorder and early dementia is more likely. McCamy Taylor Feb 2017 #145

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2017 #146

This message was self-deleted by its author briv1016 Feb 2017 #147

Only if IQ stands for GallopingGhost Feb 2017 #148

He also hit 18 hole-in-ones in his last golf outing. briv1016 Feb 2017 #149

Of course...assuming you're living in a Base 6 world. n/t CincyDem Feb 2017 #152

If he has it, that makes me question the meaning of IQ ck4829 Feb 2017 #153

I think that there's a misplaced decimal point there SoCalNative Feb 2017 #155

if he does, it's on the idiot-savant scale Dem2 Feb 2017 #156

No way! HassleCat Feb 2017 #182

154? lol Lanius Feb 2017 #184

Since, if he thinks it will make him look good, he invents everything to be fierywoman Feb 2017 #186

Illegitimacy Quota, yes Blue Owl Feb 2017 #191

High IQ people are interesting HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #193

Who said it is? LAS14 Feb 2017 #195

I'd describe his IQ as room temperature... backscatter712 Feb 2017 #198

No way Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #200

Forgot the decimal point hurple Feb 2017 #203