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IamFortunesFool

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Sat Feb 11, 2017, 06:35 PM Feb 2017

Overview of the Trump/Russia collusion and timeline PLEASE READ! [View all]

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I've seen so many threads here and elsewhere that relate, pertain, or detail various aspects of the treasonous coup recently perpetrated on our democracy, but have yet to see all the available information synthesized into a single, cohesive framework and timeline. Most of the articles written on this subject only cover one or two aspects of what is revealing itself to be an absolute onion of layers and players, all contributing to a still somewhat vague end. Who did/knew what, and when? What is their end game? What is it, specifically, that the players in this vast drama are seeking to achieve and sustain?

Is it to increase and cement the power and wealth of one nation, or a hoped for federation that these acts were perpetrated? Or was it in the interest of one smaller group, sect, or movement within a global power? Or is it corporate interest (in the case of Russia, one in the same) of multinational banks and oil companies? Could it be just the vision of one man pursuing global dominion and a grand place in history? Are we to lay all the blame at the feet of Trump and Putin, or are they just the current agents of a movement within the institutions they represent, and thus just the respective heads of much larger snakes? Is it a cabal?...a nest of vipers? Or are they (Trump and Putin) the only two snakes hiding in the grass; acting for their own selfish ends? Perhaps there is only one snake?.... Perhaps we are, in our ignorance and suspicion, seeing more shadows than need be? Or, perhaps the stakes are even greater than we think... Whomever all contributed to subvert the American election did so for very specific reasons, and will do very specific things with their gained result.

I will attempt herein to compile a brief overview of the evidence and information currently available to the public. I will stick only to referenced sources, and leave my extrapolations, suspicions, or conclusions to a minimum at the end in an effort to let the evidence speak for itself...which I feel it does quite convincingly and intuitively.

Despite Trump's insistence that he didn't have any dealings with Russia or Putin, there is documented evidence of Trump's (his business, and his family) connections to Russia beginning in the late 80's, and increasing steadily over time. Despite his claim to have no relationship with Putin, it is well documented in his own tweets and (often overtly fawning) public statements over the years. Donald Trump Jr, specifically, has a rich and documented history in the country promoting various Trump business interests there. The Steele dossier claims that Trump has been developed as a Russian asset for the last 4-5 years, and at minimum, the documented reality of Trump in Russia during this time can be taken as proof of the opportunity for the FSB to compile sufficient material for leverage or blackmail purposes. Here is a link to a well researched and referenced 37 page PDF file that details Trump, his children, and some of his closest associates' ties in Russia and/or with Putin over the years: http://media.wix.com/ugd/61e09d_d6d1097337e54b2cb58590b8554b7886.pdf

So we know that Trump has certainly at least had the time and opportunity to be compromised in some way by Putin. It has been noted everywhere how curious Trump's absolute refusal to speak ill of Russia or Putin is. While he will, and has been, quick to attack or malign other foreign leaders, American statesmen, judges, companies, and citizens, he remains strangely obstinate in his refusal to condemn or even perceptively slight Russia and its leader. This is an aberration in his well documented character, and as such deserves further scrutiny. But let's table that for now and allow more of the facts to speak or themselves...

To get at the heart of the Russian ability to compromise our election, we need to go all the way back to Edward Snowden. Here I will link to an exhaustively researched article by Greg Olear that covers in great detail the motivations and maneuverings that made the usurping of our election possible: http://www.theweeklings.com/golear/2017/01/24/dah-donald-russian-blood-money-and-the-fbis-case-against-trump/

The article linked above is an ABSOLUTE must read for this topic, as it details and explains the otherwise seeming contradictions in the FBI and James Comey's approach.

Also, a follow up from the same journalist here: http://www.theweeklings.com/golear/2017/02/10/moscow-on-the-potomac-february-is-going-according-to-putins-plan/

Note that both articles were published well before the developments of the last several days, in which law enforcement sources have begun to publicly validate some of the Steele dossier, lending credit to the document as a whole....

Now, is this the extent of Putin's play? Is his geopolitical aim simply more money and oil, or does he have an even grander vision?

The answer, frighteningly, is that this is just the visible tip of the iceberg.

Undermining the U.S., having the American President in his pocket, is the most valuable achievement Putin's Russia has ever attained. To truly understand what Putin's global aims are, we have to establish what sort of political theory and political science drive his policies and actions. To do this, we have to understand Alexander Dugin and Vladislav Surkov. Dugin is widely regarded as Putin's top political advisor, and Surkov is his political strategist. In other words, Surkov's methods are being used to achieve the political ambitions of Dugin and Putin.

Dugin is the original architect of 4th and 5th column political theory (For a firsthand description from Dugin, read here: http://www.4pt.su/en/content/4th-political-theory-and-post-liberalism, and additional reading here:http://crookedtimber.org/2015/03/10/who-is-aleksandr-dugin/), and his aim is to establish a new world order centered on a Eurasian culture and economy, with Moscow and Russia at its heart. This man is after nothing short of a dismantling of the entire liberal global order and capitalist marketplace.

Bannon is heavily influenced by Dugin, and it is evident in his own political theories and motivations. For those of you unfamiliar with what these are, read here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/22/steve-bannon-trump-s-top-guy-told-me-he-was-a-leninist.html

Surkov's methods of propaganda and social unrest are summed up in this article: https://thinkprogress.org/when-everything-is-a-lie-power-is-the-only-truth-1e641751d150#.kt9mbc96h

Here is an excerpt:

His aim is to undermine peoples’ perceptions of the world, so they never know what is really happening.
Surkov turned Russian politics into a bewildering, constantly changing piece of theater. He sponsored all kinds of groups, from neo-Nazi skinheads to liberal human rights groups. He even backed parties that were opposed to President Putin.
But the key thing was, that Surkov then let it be known that this was what he was doing, which meant that no one was sure what was real or fake. As one journalist put it: “It is a strategy of power that keeps any opposition constantly confused.”
A ceaseless shape-shifting that is unstoppable because it is undefinable. It is exactly what Surkov is alleged to have done in the Ukraine this year. In typical fashion, as the war began, Surkov published a short story about something he called non-linear war. A war where you never know what the enemy are really up to, or even who they are. The underlying aim, Surkov says, is not to win the war, but to use the conflict to create a constant state of destabilized perception, in order to manage and control.

Bannon and Trump deployed that strategy with aplomb throughout the primary. Because of the constant media focus on his campaign, Trump was able to bombard the airwaves with an unending stream of surreal falsehoods. At the same time, Bannon turned Breitbart News into a Trump Party organ and used it to disseminate further confusion. Independent of Trump and Bannon, a number of other fake news sites — an improbable number of which happened to be headquartered in Macedonia — inundated social media with inaccurate information. There is some evidence to suggest that Surkov’s employer contributed to the process as well, using the website Wikileaks as a conduit.

Many of the stories promulgated by Trump, Bannon, and their allies — such as Trump’s claim that Sen. Ted Cruz’s father was somehow involved in the Kennedy assassination — were obviously false and easily debunked. But the sheer volume of these stories had their intended effect. When fake news becomes omnipresent, all news becomes suspect. Everything starts to look like a lie.
The relentless downpour of inaccurate or useless information can make people lose trust in even their own minds. It happened to Washington Post reporter Ben Terris during the election.

In March, Terris reported that he had seen Corey Lewandowski, then Trump’s campaign manager, physically attack journalist Michelle Fields. The campaign lied about the incident and said nothing had happened. After days of being told his report had been wrong, Terris began to doubt what he had seen. Even when video was uncovered corroborating Terris’ report, the Trump campaign evaded the issue.
“Trump gaslighted me,” Fields later told Terris for an article about the incident. “I worry now that he’s gaslighting the country.”

In a world where nothing is true, the only real choice available to voters is between competing fictions. Trump offered a particularly compelling set of fictions, but he also found various ways to telegraph that he knew what he was doing. Through irony, evasion, self-contradiction, and obviously ridiculous claims, he let his supporters in on the joke. If everything is a lie, then the man who makes his lies obvious is practicing a peculiar form of honesty.

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Taken in sum, it is clear that we have a president beholden unto Russia, and his chief adviser/strategist who is directly influenced by Dugin's vision of a racist and nationalistic global cabal, and is employing Surkov's methods of achieving it. This is much larger than just this election, folks. We are already waist deep in WWIII. The nationalistic fascism sweeping across western democracies are the proxy-battles of this new evolution of warfare. Russia is already many years and several invasions ahead of the rest of us even realizing we are already at war. It is time to wake up! We have to throw off our oppressors here before we can hope to stem the tide of the war on the international stage. America is the linchpin to this global coup... If we fall, so will the rest of the West. However, if we can prevail against this global fascism and its domestic deplorables, then we may yet hold the light for the rest of the West and Europe to follow.

A war in the 21st century need not be fought on the battlefield, when it can be fought in the minds of the masses. The movements of armies, munitions, and media are but the weapons of perception on this new battlefield.

We are already at war, My Friends... The question is: Will we return fire before it is too late?









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I am reading "Winter is coming" triron Feb 2017 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Feb 2017 #2
It is a natural and intuitive evolution of warfare... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #3
Kick Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #4
I realize my post is long... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #6
I will. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #9
I hope to God it's true about Comey, and too bad his reason for the letter was job security... brush Feb 2017 #23
My jury is somewhat out on him, however GliderGuider Feb 2017 #24
I remember that as I'd followed Comey's career since I worked for the NY Law Journal in the early... brush Feb 2017 #28
Comey released information, in the week before the election, that the FBI had discovered lutherj Feb 2017 #46
Please read the attached article IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #52
Interesting read. It makes more sense to me, although I can't help wondering why Trump lutherj Feb 2017 #78
The assessment of Comey's actions and intentions in that article is hugely compelling IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #25
See this: Senator Wyden is Hell-bent on Getting Out the Truth About Trump and Russia (Mother Jones) Amaryllis Feb 2017 #51
Yes... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #54
So I know a number of congress folks have been wanting this to come out but couldnt talk about it. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #57
There is that. I understand Comey made the info classified in the briefing he gave to the lawmakers. brush Feb 2017 #72
A few gut feelings I have Norbert9 Feb 2017 #70
trump got 42% of the 50% of people who voted, which equals what, about 24% of the population brush Feb 2017 #73
Exactly. I posted recently how Sessions had to vote for Devos before he himself could be confirmed Norbert9 Feb 2017 #76
According to update article cited from The Weeklings, Sessions can squash it all! Norbert9 Feb 2017 #69
That is my fear as well. triron Feb 2017 #85
Hopefully this thing is moving faster Turbineguy Feb 2017 #98
This is THE reason dgibby Feb 2017 #106
I'm printing out a copy of it to go through at my leisure. calimary Feb 2017 #79
Hahahaha!...Can't spell P.T. Barnum without Trump!... Priceless! IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #81
The story is currently mrs_p Feb 2017 #5
The expanse and breadth of the information is certainly daunting... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #7
Thank you. Delphinus Feb 2017 #29
Yes, cancer is just the right word for it. brush Feb 2017 #31
Indeed... festering cancer IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #109
Standing ovation! GliderGuider Feb 2017 #8
The question of agency or authority to prosecute this vast swamp is tricky... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #16
Kick Squinch Feb 2017 #10
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This is a great post. I have been following this closely and while I know Squinch Feb 2017 #15
El gusto es mio! IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #17
Muchas gracias. Did you see this OP: Squinch Feb 2017 #18
That is a perfect exhibit of evidence for Surkov's methods IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #20
Why? AlexSFCA Feb 2017 #63
I am so glad you're here to lend your voice to this topic IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #67
Great post, recommended panader0 Feb 2017 #19
No doubt you've been told this before, but sorry, you are NObody's fool!! SO many thanks for Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #21
Ha! I assure you I am quite the fool IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #22
NotaFool: have been furiously trying to follow what's going on in FL via twitter acct of Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #43
Looking into it now... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #45
Thanks, it just feels like some shit's going down today - here are 3 of her posts from 8 Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #47
Yes, there is a lot of jockeying and infighting going on in the administration tonight IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #50
Spasiba, mon ami! You have worked so hard today - - call it a night, wouldja, we'll need you again Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #55
No worries... I'll be here IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #56
Nice work today. Real nice work. GliderGuider Feb 2017 #58
I got preoccupied with it and missed SNL... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #59
I'm kind of dense here and overwhelmed with your info, but could you please explain PearliePoo2 Feb 2017 #80
There has been enough of this information in the public domain for long enough IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #84
I have been listening to Malcolm Nance on A M Joy's weekend show and he said PearliePoo2 Feb 2017 #87
They are both fantastic journalist and their work has been instrumental in helping to uncover IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #91
In the news today, evidence of exactly what I said above yesterday... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #105
Fantastic post!!!!!! dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #26
I am fairly new here as far as posting anything, but I'm glad to carry on the tradition IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #27
I know it's been said before to you but... ailsagirl Feb 2017 #88
Mark and thank you dem4decades Feb 2017 #30
Some of my dystopian thoughts have been that Putin wants America. He wants our food, resources, notdarkyet Feb 2017 #32
It's widely known that Russia has been funding the nationalist and alt-right movements across Europe IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #33
Breibart and Alex Jones AlexSFCA Feb 2017 #61
To be or not to be MedusaX Feb 2017 #34
Yes, that is my fear as well IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #35
45 is a tool Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #60
welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2017 #120
Thanks for those sources and for tying this altogether in one place. Ligyron Feb 2017 #36
K & R BadgerMom Feb 2017 #37
THANK YOU!! Again ! pangaia Feb 2017 #38
Yes, we (and a few others) have been beating the drum here for a few weeks IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #39
Yeah and Alex SFCA.. You guys are a treasure.. pangaia Feb 2017 #40
Awww... well, thank you! IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #41
The question remains... butdiduvote Feb 2017 #42
And that is a difficult question, indeed... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #44
the challenge AlexSFCA Feb 2017 #62
Yes, time is absolutely of the essence IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #65
outstanding analysis! AlexSFCA Feb 2017 #48
Hey, Alex! IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #49
seems like the world always needs enemy AlexSFCA Feb 2017 #66
Namely the Federal Reserve Norbert9 Feb 2017 #71
Wow! sagetea Feb 2017 #53
More than ever Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #64
K&R flying rabbit Feb 2017 #68
K&R... spanone Feb 2017 #74
K&R ck4829 Feb 2017 #75
Excellent read! snacker Feb 2017 #77
Excellent, Excellent, EXCELLENT post! There is no doubt that tRump* is a Russian asset... Raster Feb 2017 #82
many republicans are ok with that AlexSFCA Feb 2017 #92
Excellent point...globalism is happening, like it or not... and to be entirely fair... Raster Feb 2017 #93
OP DittoTheCat2 Feb 2017 #83
Answers IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #90
That is some seriously astute shit. GliderGuider Feb 2017 #95
This is a very good analysis of what we're up against. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #86
Candygram for our favorite Fool!: Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #89
i think putin's been using talk radio and limbaugh too certainot Feb 2017 #94
unrec so i can rerec K&R.... spanone Feb 2017 #96
One question: OldRedneck Feb 2017 #97
Trump was a perfect storm of opportunity for Putin IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #100
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Feb 2017 #99
Thank you all for your commments, input, and questions... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #101
fwiw, we arent as far behind as it seems, i dont think. mopinko Feb 2017 #102
For this you get a K/R and my last heart. Lochloosa Feb 2017 #103
Thank you! IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #104
America cannot tolerate Republican-Russian treason Achilleaze Feb 2017 #107
Kick Frogg Feb 2017 #108
The news tonight... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #110
KnRnBookmark Hekate Feb 2017 #111
Trump is not even very good at hiding that Putin has something on him! Rex Feb 2017 #112
I am heartened to see the MSM picking up this story in earnest IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #113
I saw a very disturbing video on YouTube that presented a lot of this. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #114
I have not seen that... But I would like to IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #115
OK, here it is. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #116
Awesome! Thank you!! IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #117
Alright, here's what appears to be the entire 2.5 hour documentary. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #118
I'm going to start it now IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #119
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