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In reply to the discussion: Overview of the Trump/Russia collusion and timeline PLEASE READ! [View all]IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)Thank you for your genuine interest and thoughtful questions. I will do my best to answer them to your satisfaction...
A) Putin obviously put considerable effort and resources into his hijacking of our election, and there is enough evidence of Russian involvement to reasonably conjecture that Putin was confident in this ultimate result. Trump's win provides Putin with an immensely useful tool (fool) to continue his process of destabilization. Having Trump and Bannon in the White House allows for an expedition of Putin's/Dugin's goals. Bannon is wholly on board with the larger political strategy and Trump's ego and idiocy make him a blunt but effective bludgeon. However, had Trump lost and Clinton ascended to power, the stage was already set by Trump's myriad pronouncements for the election results to be thrown into question. The hostility and venom of those on the right towards Clinton and Obama is thick and palpable after so many years of right-wing hate radio and news, and the core of Trump supporters would have been putting on demonstrations (with some likely turning violent either organically or with some unseen guidance) much in the same way that we progressives are now protesting Trump. These were two incredibly polarizing candidates, and our country has been primed for the current unrest we're seeing for years now. Remember, the method of this madness is to sow uncertainty and division to undermine our democracy and society. While Trump's presidency certainly makes things expeditious for Putin, the election of Clinton would have sown just as much divisiveness and still worked to further his ends of destabilization. This calculus is larger than just our country. The war has many fronts and is being fought both here and across Europe, in the Middle East, as well as in the international media. Had Clinton become our 45th President, Putin's ambitions would have continued on more of a slow burn, whereas Trump has helped bring things quickly to a boil. I suspect there were provisions and strategy in place to utilize a Clinton Presidency for their desired ends as well. As I've stated in these sub-threads, this global cabal is larger than just Putin, and can be traced back to the ensconcing of centralized banking and the birth of the military industrial complex about 100 years ago. Putin seems to be the current head of a much older snake.
B) Many, if not most of the cabinet appointments were likely selected by Bannon; the stench of his politics drips from people like Devos, Pruitt, Sessions, and Perry...people who have stated their desire to tear down the very departments they've been tapped to lead. Tillerson is particularly interesting choice because of his long and documented ties to Putin and Russia. While Tillerson and Sessions are directly linked to Russia and therefore obvious conspirators to some degree, Others like Perry and Ben Carson are being used for varied reasons running the table from optics to personal politics. Intersetingly, Devos has a direct link to all of this through her brother, Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater. At this point, it is impossible to know exactly who knows what and to what degree they are complicit in this coup. That said, I think it is safe to assume that, at minimum, Sessions and Tillerson are clued in and involved on some level.
C) The Dominionist crowd is a peculiar and varied lot. The movement has grassroots support and the players run the gambit from illiterate fundamentalist hillbillies, to billionaire socialite wankers like Devos. However, there is a marked divide within this movement between the religious true believers who want theocratic institutions as extensions of their world view, and the more sinister political players who recognize religion as the vehicle for social control that it has been used as by tyrants for millennia. People like Putin, Dugin, and Bannon are not pressing this coup for the satiation of their own religious fervor, but to sate their ambitions to power and relieve their own hateful prejudices. The power brokers of the movement (Putin/Bannon/Dugin, etc...) are like the super church televangelist preachers who spew rhetoric to the illiterate or uninformed masses to achieve their own desired and selfish ends. So to pointedly answer your query, the Dominionist not directly involved in the prosecution and execution of their "master plan" are useful sycophants nonetheless.
I could elaborate endlessly on many of these points. Like I've said before, the sheer scope, volume, and depth of all of this is truly staggering and utterly intimidating. Even just seeing it for what it is requires a fairly robust working knowledge of history, politics, psychology, and economics. As to your question about whether or not the Democratic party itself is compromised by this cabal, I would absolutely say: YES. Again, this is larger and older than the politics of this moment. The global financial elite have been meddling in, or overtly influencing our domestic and foreign policy for generations. I have no doubt that some, if not many, of our elected Democrats have been involved to varying degrees with the process of intentional social division and political chaos. To be honest, after everything I've seen and watched develop over the years, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if even the Clinton's were in some way involved. I'm sure that will be met with some hostile criticism here, but I stand by it. Again, this is much larger and storied than just this administration. Global economics and politics have been building towards this since WWI. Every successive administration in this country, whether knowingly or not, has helped to put us where we are today. Eisenhower warned us about this as he was leaving office... He may have been the last American President not compromised in some way by his financial backers, and therefore the moneyed interests at the heart of this entire mess.