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[Ken Burch]

59. Look...I went too far with "Never"...I know what happened in the New Deal era.

I should have said "there hasn't been a divide between at least the Seventies".

Yes, in the Thirties, New Dealers cut deals with Southern Dems to leave people of color out in the cold. And I join you in saying that should never have happened.

After the New Left and the freedom movement reshaped their debate, the post-1967 economic and social justice movements were never again in conflict...we were in support of each other and we were backing each others agendas the vast majority of the time.

And the economic justice movement, in the post-1965 era, has not argued for anything that would leave people of color out in the cold.

I agree that people of color were betrayed in the Thirties. But no one involved in that betrayal is even alive today.

Do you really hold Sanders supporters, at least half of whom were under thirty, to blame for what happened under FDR?

Do you assume those young Sanders people have the same shortcomings on race that you saw in Bernie?

I didn't mean to attack anyone. My comments were about a bogus and toxic line of argument, about an orchestrated campaign strategy. I don't think most of the people who supported HRC did so out of the belief that Bernie didn't care about racism. Most of those who did simply felt she was going to be nominated anyway and for whatever reasons they just liked her. And I accept that it was legitimate for them to do that.

I also feel Bernie didn't deserve the vilification he received on racial issues-that there was simply no reason to go there. That said, HRC would probably have been nominated even if the "Bernie doesn't care" line hadn't been spread-that she would have beaten Bernie among POC simply on the eight years she spent establishing contacts in that community. My were not about HRC supporters, but the campaign strategists who decided to demonize Bernie on those issues.

And what I want now is for there to be dialog on the social justice/economic justice thing, because in the end we basically agreed with each other on that about 95% of the time, and because there has to be a way to work strongly for both sets of justice issues. We are united in antiracism and we are united in working for an economic system that leaves no one behind and treats all with dignity.