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caraher

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40. I'm in favor of it, but it won't happen

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:55 PM

Feb 2017

Only if the Republican Congress makes the strictly political calculation that it's in their best interest will it move forward.

This goes beyond political calculation for me - Trump is in flagrant violation of the law, is unstable, incompetent - he is an existential threat to the US. Trump is more deserving of impeachment than any president, ever.

Pence is horrible - I suffered under his governorship, which was so bad that his successor is beating a hasty retreat from many Pence initiatives despite a Republican supermajority in the state legislature. But he is at least not completely mad.

I also disagree that Pence would be harder to beat. He'd lock down Christian right voters, but that's about it. Trump knew how to play the media in ways Pence can only dream of. Pence's chief skills are filling out a suit and speaking in Christofascist dogwhistles; he doesn't offer any of the "tear it all down" rage that drew so many to Trump.

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So, what's the consensus on DU? Impeachment or not? [View all] StubbornThings Feb 2017 OP

I worry get the red out Feb 2017 #1

Well said. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #12

Wet cardboard, bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaahaaa. pbmus Feb 2017 #51

Agree 100%. Remove the top threats and weaken whatever filth remains. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #88

the GOP who are in charge of both house and senate will not impeach their president La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #2

LOL. I don't think I was suggesting that DU could make it happen or that the GOP would do it. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #10

I think the GOP might if constitutents up the pressure womanofthehills Feb 2017 #50

would have to drop in their districts. that is highly unlikely. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #98

I agree. EllieBC Feb 2017 #53

The people have more power than you are acknowledging ... pbmus Feb 2017 #54

That's lovely, but what does it mean in practical terms? Orrex Feb 2017 #89

that sounds nice, but just isn't true in this specific instance. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #97

Hmmm, maybe not. If it becomes clear to the Pub's who's Town Halls are being rousted napi21 Feb 2017 #61

You must have a home, job and automobile and plenty of years to live.... jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #3

I want to see Democrats stop losing, so no, I don't think this is fun. I'm tired of losing. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #11

Pence is not a sociopath jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #15

True, but Trump is a buffoon that doesn't care about policy. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #23

What is this BEAT stuff? jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #28

First of all, you have no idea how old I am so don't lecture more on what I would understand. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #35

The people can change a lot of things... pbmus Feb 2017 #58

.Pence may be RW, but he is sane. Trump is nuts & that's more dangerous whathehell Feb 2017 #99

Not if we're talking about winning future elections. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #100

Too early for that, imo, Four years is a long time, way too long for someone like Trump whathehell Feb 2017 #104

Pence IS a sociopath! Greybnk48 Feb 2017 #95

+1000 putitinD Feb 2017 #30

Impeach them both. butdiduvote Feb 2017 #4

If you want to do that, Pence has to go first jmowreader Feb 2017 #25

Paul Ryan would love that. TXCritter Feb 2017 #29

With the repubs in charge Turbineguy Feb 2017 #5

Not until tRump gets to around 30% approval rating njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #6

At this rate, should be the end of the week nt PRETZEL Feb 2017 #7

NO - Pence is infinitely worse leftynyc Feb 2017 #8

Agree. I think Pence is a lot more evil. Trump is just a non-caring, narcissistic, child. nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #13

Trump admires that murder of journalist and opposition political parties in Russia. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #86

Fine. Get rid of Trump. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #91

You think Pence is worse ? Rustyeye77 Feb 2017 #18

Oh yes, much worse leftynyc Feb 2017 #20

Yep. And he would be much harder to beat than Trump. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #24

Beat? When? What are you even talking about? Dream Girl Feb 2017 #90

I'm talking about how much the Democrats have been losing lately. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #94

I agree and I lived in Indiana radical noodle Feb 2017 #36

So we should live with this asshole for 4 years? Rustyeye77 Feb 2017 #37

I'd rather get rid of both of them! radical noodle Feb 2017 #42

If that's our only choice leftynyc Feb 2017 #45

Yes. And use the passion and hatred against him to win back the congress. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #60

The guy sucks !!! Rustyeye77 Feb 2017 #65

It's not going to happen - he is self destructing by the day womanofthehills Feb 2017 #69

I'm glad you commented leftynyc Feb 2017 #46

You nailed it. Behind the Aegis Feb 2017 #80

Well put leftynyc Feb 2017 #81

It's hard to say one is worse than the other - look at the crazy disorder in the White House now. womanofthehills Feb 2017 #59

Trump believes in leftynyc Feb 2017 #78

Maximum security prison like Ted Kaczynski. lpbk2713 Feb 2017 #9

I think that it is too soon for realistic impeachment but I think it's going in that direction el_bryanto Feb 2017 #14

What tips the scales for me wryter2000 Feb 2017 #16

Impeach. Adrahil Feb 2017 #17

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Xolodno Feb 2017 #19

Politics aside, he is a traitor. He must be impeached. Tatiana Feb 2017 #21

Keep the Buffoon where he is. LanternWaste Feb 2017 #22

Agree. I'm not sure why so many don't get this. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #26

I agree... chillfactor Feb 2017 #33

The damage Trump is causing, and has the potential to cause, nullifies the advantage of keeping him jmowreader Feb 2017 #31

Definitely agree with you - the guy is f**king unstable womanofthehills Feb 2017 #67

Lock the commie spy traitor up CountAllVotes Feb 2017 #27

They should both be forced to resign. MoonRiver Feb 2017 #32

Impeach but not just yet TXCritter Feb 2017 #34

Impeachment of the entire administration is the only goal. democratisphere Feb 2017 #38

I think this goes 2naSalit Feb 2017 #39

I'm in favor of it, but it won't happen caraher Feb 2017 #40

Difference between Trump/PenceTrump would order torture, Pence would order but also watch delisen Feb 2017 #41

Think he will be forced to resign Repub won't inpeach FloridaBlues Feb 2017 #43

Investigate. Investigate. Investigate. Iggo Feb 2017 #44

I'd be okay with investigating with impeachment hearings to keep him busy. nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #62

How many fairies can dance on the head of a pin? briv1016 Feb 2017 #47

What does that have to do with my OP? StubbornThings Feb 2017 #63

I figured I was speaking to the pointless nature of the question itself. briv1016 Feb 2017 #72

I am betting that there will be a serious medical event before we get to impeachment grantcart Feb 2017 #48

It is a pointless discussion because he won't be impeached. Trump is already committing impeachable StevieM Feb 2017 #49

If Trump goes, Pence is going down too womanofthehills Feb 2017 #52

Impeachment, just as soon as possible. (nt) Paladin Feb 2017 #55

Trump looks and sounds unwell JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #56

speaking of looking unwell womanofthehills Feb 2017 #71

I think she's been sleeping in her clothes and JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #73

Impeachment but not removal. HassleCat Feb 2017 #57

Yes. Keep that pig busy with hearings and make the Republicans defend him. nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #64

Drain the swamp MyNameGoesHere Feb 2017 #66

I doubt The House will Impeach Motown_Johnny Feb 2017 #68

There won't be an impeachment. These Republicans have no honor. Mr. Ected Feb 2017 #70

Let us just patiently work to wrap DFT around the neck of the GOP for now struggle4progress Feb 2017 #74

Not sure how it will shake out, but Pence will go down with Trump. GreenEyedLefty Feb 2017 #75

No way impeachment will happen Kilgore Feb 2017 #76

Pence inspires exactly no one BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #77

It's not about Pence, it's about the other Republicans not carrying Trump around their necks. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #82

Nah, trump's support is mostly non transferable BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #84

The best possible outcome might be this: Spider Jerusalem Feb 2017 #79

No impeachment and here is why yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #83

They can't afford the scandal and the low poll numbers associated with Trump. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #87

They have the power now, so they will try to undo everything yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #103

Trump needs to be impreached. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #85

They need Democrats to impeach - that's a bargaining chip for us. tinrobot Feb 2017 #92

Trump will be persuaded to resign. Lying, deceitful Pence will become 46...bad no matter what nikibatts Feb 2017 #93

I think there are a bunch of folks going to jail. nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #96

He is too dangerous to remain in office iamateacher Feb 2017 #101

Tough to say. longship Feb 2017 #102

I personally don't think the country can take much more of Trump NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #105

No Pence either- he is a traitor barbiegeek Feb 2017 #107

Impeach & New Election due to hacking (paper ballots) barbiegeek Feb 2017 #106